I think I was thinking about the other delay after June 1st. I wasn't up on why the sales date was June 1st in the first place. My bad.
PP USA X: Major roster changes
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I think I was thinking about the other delay after June 1st. I wasn't up on why the sales date was June 1st in the first place. My bad.
Bryan316
METAL... nuff said!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. I totally got here too late. This is.... well, I'll stay civil and say "governments, in general, suck."
But wow, does our government know how to screw shit up.
[EDIT]Just thought about it.... all this trauma and heartache and screw job, really does fall on ONE government official's shoulders, doesn't it? Only takes one of them to say NO to all of this. If only he could be shown just how many people his careless decision has pissed off so severely like this![/EDIT]
Oh well....
MANTICORA DREAM EVIL NOCTURNAL RITES MANTICORA EPICA KAMELOT MANTICORA ANGRA BLIND GUARDIAN MANTICORA VISION DIVINE
And let Iced Earth finish up their last song? Heh heh heh....
But wow, does our government know how to screw shit up.
[EDIT]Just thought about it.... all this trauma and heartache and screw job, really does fall on ONE government official's shoulders, doesn't it? Only takes one of them to say NO to all of this. If only he could be shown just how many people his careless decision has pissed off so severely like this![/EDIT]
Oh well....
MANTICORA DREAM EVIL NOCTURNAL RITES MANTICORA EPICA KAMELOT MANTICORA ANGRA BLIND GUARDIAN MANTICORA VISION DIVINE
And let Iced Earth finish up their last song? Heh heh heh....
sh0kr0k
Active Member
Sorry to hear of all the problems, Glenn :-\ I don't think anyone could blame you if you decided to not continue doing this (though no one wants to see you stop, either!). At least you are capable of recovering gracefully from a huge issue like this. That's definitely something to be proud of!
Finally get to see two of my newest favorite bands - CAGE and of course MINDFLOW! Seriously, there couldn't be better replacements! Though I'm concerned that Mindflow will suffer the Rage effect, being a rather mellow prog band following what's sure to be the smash-hit high-energy Cage opener. It would suck to see that happen to those guys after how hard they've worked over the years. Despite the last tour snafu, I've never met a more dedicated and humble group of musicians. On the other hand, I can't wait to see Cage and Mindflow back to back, since nowhere else in the world would that happen!
Finally get to see two of my newest favorite bands - CAGE and of course MINDFLOW! Seriously, there couldn't be better replacements! Though I'm concerned that Mindflow will suffer the Rage effect, being a rather mellow prog band following what's sure to be the smash-hit high-energy Cage opener. It would suck to see that happen to those guys after how hard they've worked over the years. Despite the last tour snafu, I've never met a more dedicated and humble group of musicians. On the other hand, I can't wait to see Cage and Mindflow back to back, since nowhere else in the world would that happen!
On this point, I personally (just me) think it might be a better idea to have Brainstorm close the fest after FW. Even though FW of course has the seniority, in terms of the two bands' sound and general energy level differences, and considering it'll be the very end of a very long weekend, Brainstorm would better serve the final slot.
On a more directly analogous note, Dreamscape following Into Eternity in 2004 had no problems, with the crowd seeming to be equally into both bands (or at least an equal number of different fans)
There is no way to predict how things will go down, I am truly sorry to hear that you had to go through all of this. As a fan of the festival I thank you for your professionalism, your honesty and your diligence is setting things to right!
PLEASE don't scare us by talk of no more ProgPowers
It's the only festival worthwhile is the US!
Thanks again for all your hard work. You are truly appreciated.
Best,
Pabla
PLEASE don't scare us by talk of no more ProgPowers
It's the only festival worthwhile is the US!Thanks again for all your hard work. You are truly appreciated.
Best,
Pabla
AngraRULES
Member
I don't know why you'd think that. If anything, I think the Rage effect will happen during DSO. As far as I'm concerned Mindflow is more popular than them.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more people watching Mindflow than Cage, then again, I could be wrong.
sh0kr0k
Active Member
I just meant that people might be so energized from Cage that they would find an extremely progressive set to be... "boring"
and then walk out during their set. I can't imagine two bands more polarized than Cage and Mindflow, neither possessing the characteristics of the other. That 180 degree transition might put some people off to Mindflow. No one wants to see that happen, so hopefully the prog fans will come in droves for Mindflow's set! Cage is the clear option for the opener, there's no questioning that. It'll be intense! Mindflow are intense too, just in a different way that prog is. Actually, I think their "slowest" song is by far the most intense and emotional, but then again, I'm a prog fan already. hehAs for DSO, I have a feeling it will be packed due to curiosity, then it will either thin out dramatically or they will somehow captivate the crowd and surprise us all.
Bryan316
METAL... nuff said!
There is no fear from me, about Mindflow being able to CONQUER an audience. They're gonna melt the building like an overpass on I-75! Heh heh....
sh0kr0k
Active Member
AngraRULES
Member
I just meant that people might be so energized from Cage that they would find an extremely progressive set to be... "boring"
As for DSO, I have a feeling it will be packed due to curiosity, then it will either thin out dramatically or they will somehow captivate the crowd and surprise us all.
Oh, I get it now. You're right, they're pretty opposite, but I guess it could be worse though. Mindflow, as progressive as they are (they're more progressive than most prog metal bands out there, but in a good way) have songs that are really heavy (the opener of the new album, Destructive Device says it all), and melodies that would rival Circus Maximus. They're a very balanced band if you think about it, especially in their last disc. Also, the band is known for being flawless in a live environment. I think everyone is in for a treat, for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if even some of the power metal fans end up sticking around to see their set.
That was probably the best replacement Glenn could've thought of. I'm very happy about the choice, despite the obvious disappointment in not having God headline Friday night anymore.
AngraRULES
Member
Completely agree. There's not a lot of true progressive metal bands that can actually deliver so much energy.
nailz
Member
Can we please stop refering to a mass exodus as "the Rage effect"? They had nothing to do with it.
nailz
Member
Pathosray and Elvenking?
I'm looking forward to both sets. I hate Prog metal, but I enjoy Mindflow's stuff. I think people will bail (or just not show up) on Cage more than Mindflow, which is a shame, because Cage is fucking awesome.
Ascension
New Metal Member
AngraRULES
Member
Have to agree with you there. I've seen some odd pairings in South America and Europe.
For instance, a current tour going on in Brazil.... Sepultura and Angra. Sure, they're the two biggest metal bands in the country, but the styles just don't go along, period.
Surprisingly enough, the crowd is sticking around to see both, regardless of the preference.
And they're even getting together onstage for an encore, playing old tunes!! (Sabbath, Zeppelin, Priest, etc.)
Bryant
Mr. Sleepy
Good riddance !! If you read Glenn's original post, you would notice this situation is well beyond Glenn or Shane's control. I too am a huge VP fan and first bought PPUSAII tickets primarily because they were scheduled. I have had a few PP moments that were frustrating, yet I always enjoy the show and the other bands. I was able to see VP at their PPUSA performance.
Glenn and Shane are, as far as I know the only two people in the US trying their damnedest to get VP to the US. Glenn is responsible for getting VP here and playing PPUSA. How many other people have done that ? I can guarantee you that Glenn and Shane are more disappointed in this than anyone else. These cancellations can cost them much more than $550, I guarantee you.
I understand your frustrations and in fact, haven't always seen eye to eye with Glenn on all issues, but I have never questioned his extreme hard work to get the best bands at PPUSA that he possibly can. The immigration system is the root of this problem, not the promoters of this fine event.
Bryant
Glenn and Shane are, as far as I know the only two people in the US trying their damnedest to get VP to the US. Glenn is responsible for getting VP here and playing PPUSA. How many other people have done that ? I can guarantee you that Glenn and Shane are more disappointed in this than anyone else. These cancellations can cost them much more than $550, I guarantee you.
I understand your frustrations and in fact, haven't always seen eye to eye with Glenn on all issues, but I have never questioned his extreme hard work to get the best bands at PPUSA that he possibly can. The immigration system is the root of this problem, not the promoters of this fine event.
Bryant
You must have them confused with some other band, Mindflow Mellow? As their new show is so highly charged and heavy, they will definetly as Bryant says 'Melt some Faces"
Quoted for fact, my friend, and i don't think you will be wrong on that point
dcowboys311
Member
A prog metal band playing after a power metal band?
At a festival that focuses on power metal bands and prog metal bands?
UNBELIEVABLE
At a festival that focuses on power metal bands and prog metal bands?
UNBELIEVABLE
johan68
Member
I guess you have never seen D:S:O live..... They will blow your socks off.
Brilliant live act. I predict a "Mustasch Effect"...Similar threads
