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[metalkingdom]

I've also heard that there are those that have succeeded in whatever they have done, without a back-up plan. The fact that it was either 'do or die' was what made those individuals succeed. Any truth to this? Anyone like this here? :Spin:

There's always a backup plan for us. Studio engineering is a both an artistic and a technical profession. When the artistic side (music) starts gettin' sketchy, we luckily have the option to focus on the technical aspect. The technical audio and audiovisual field is actually booming right now. Granted, it's not gonna be as fun as music, but you'll stay in the field as a professional and keep your technical chops up. Then, the idea is to save up your money and do what you really want to do.

Since I've moved to D.C., I've found all the Full Sail grads...

 

[Ermz]

Actually yes, metalkingdom has a point. There are jobs out there on television, radio, games etc. It doesn't HAVE to be in a studio with a band. It may not be as fun (barring games, games are fun ) but hey, they're still jobs.

 

[Razorjack]

I'm on a Music Technology Science degree at university, I've been training for 4yrs (I previously got a diploma in Music Tech) and have at least 1yr left. The one thing I find about all these graduates who fall on their faces is that they know nothing about why they are doing something, they just do as they were taught.

I am under no illusion that this industry is full of jobs and money waiting to be thrown at me, but I have every intention of setting myself apart from the crowd.

Anyway, If all else fails my back up plan is to open up a high class sex shop, there's more than enough money in that industry.

 

[James Murphy]

I'm on a Music Technology Science degree at university, I've been training for 4yrs (I previously got a diploma in Music Tech) and have at least 1yr left. The one thing I find about all these graduates who fall on their faces is that they know nothing about why they are doing something, they just do as they were taught.

I am under no illusion that this industry is full of jobs and money waiting to be thrown at me, but I have every intention of setting myself apart from the crowd.

Anyway, If all else fails my back up plan is to open up a high class sex shop, there's more than enough money in that industry.

see... now young Andrew here has it down cold!

 

[Nitronium Blood]

Anyway, If all else fails my back up plan is to open up a high class sex shop

Franchise opportunity or ?

 

[Awake_In_Animosity]

In a word, yes. I thought about going into the whole 'it's slightly varied by where you live...' but then I saw you also live in Australia. We're essentially fucked. You need to realize this before trying to take any career into the music industry here. Our music industry is shit. There is no other way of looking at it. Our ability to market and publish shit internationally is extremely limited, so at the very best you'll be doing nation-wide scale stuff. At the very best. Most of the work at project studios these days is demo recordings, and even so the market is declining as more and more home studios open up around the place.

People don't feel a need to pay $300 a day to cut a demo, and I mean that's as low as the prices get. Studios simply can't keep doors open if they go any lower than that. Even so, with these rates, they barely break even most of the time.

If you're looking at it from the perspective of a musician... you can get bar gigs all over the place. But it's extremely hard, as a band, to break out of that local pub-gigging scene. I have mates who've been into the metal/gigging thing for years with absolutely no progress. A new EP here or there, but it's always the same shit.

Psycroptic got international exposure... but figure, they're goin to Europe.

From my experiences with audio guys, and what they've told me.. you need to be prepared for the worst, especially here. The market is declining, it's oversatured with Audio Engineering/Music Performance students like myself. It's extremely hard to break into and get a 'career' in the industry. Even so, as James said, it would be freelance work. So if a band don't want to pay $300 a day anymore, why the hell would they pay $300 PLUS your freelance fee on top of that just so YOU can do the demo instead of the in-house guy?

Things are bad. But if you can deal with that, you'll be right

Sorry if this seems like 'know-it-all' rambling, it's 2am.

Sorry if this sounds rude Moonlapse, but I can contradict just about everything you have said here as far as stuff in Australia goes.

I would suggest getting out from behind your computer ever now and then, because I know quite a few oz metal artists who are recording albums and playing overseas on very good festivals and Tours...some even have international record deals with big labels

Here is a small list of examples

Daysend (www.daysend.com.au) - Just toured the states with Otep and Gizmachi and signed to MetalBlade and Locomotive records.

Black Majesty(www.blackmajesty.com.au) - Just did a stint in Europe with Hammerfall and are on LMP records(a divsion of SPV)

Dungeon (www.dungeon.cd) LMP records and Metal Mayhem records, just toured Europe with Megadeth and even played a few festivals on there own, plus a second sold out tour of Japan

Psycroptic are about to tour the states with Hate Eternal and Deeds of Flesh.

The Amenta (www.theamenta.com) Signed to Listenable records in france

Yes, its harder to do it here in OZ, but you just have to work harder to get the results. At the end of the day it makes you a better band anyway....as for who is engineerinf and producing these albums it's all mainly in there home studios or a few good local producers who have there own studio's like Astennu(ex-Dimmu Borgir) who is producing some of this counties best acts.

End rant.