smoking

[RETIREDTrapped]

...It is very calming.

I personally don't smoke, but i can understand why people chose to do it, and no, i don't think people are being 'tryhards' or whatever you reckon 'Bleed for me', we seem to be disagreeing on alot...!!

 

[bleed for me]

yea...oh well....at least we're not being childish about it

 

[Russell]

Nope

 

[Opet]

Second hand smoke makes me ill. I get mad easily when people smoke in a closed area without considering that maybe they're making ME ILL! It's rude, but...I can't complain and say "wtf!" to them. I smoke maybe 5-10 a week. Winston Lights. Why don't I just quit? It's easier to commit to cutting back to almost one a day than all together. They're wonderous when stressed! So very calming. My brain loves it. It told me so. Maybe someday I'll quit all together. Heart disease is apparently big in my family.

I don't remember smoking being stressed as being so foul when I started. I don't remember anything at all like that as a matter of fact. I just remember the Marlboro man commercials and the Joe Camel promotions. I'm glad they've finally targeted the audience and started stressing how stupid it is to start in the first place.

"Elastic meadow, endless arms of sorrow.
Lips try to form "because.""

 

[Malaclypse]

i get my second hand (lung?) smoke daily @ work, but i'm not offended (i don't smoke for myself). more annoying to me is the thick smoke concentration in pubs and clubs which burns in your eyes after some time.

 

[Kushantaiidan]

If a person is smoking near me, I go and cough wetly into their face..

Then walk away coughing some more..

It's usually better when I have a cold though..

They deserve only the best deseases to make their life spans even shorter, so I won't have to smell there vile crap for so long.

SMOKERS: Hey, instead of smoking cigurettes, smoke some molten lead. It's the same thing, you'll die painfully from both. Only lead doesn't smell and won't hurt me if I don't touch it.

Oh yeah, I had a friend who smoked, and every chance I got, I would take a random cig out of his pack, insert it butt in into my nose, then returned it to the pack.

I got punched a lot but it was worth it.

Also, did I mention, if you smoke, you are a FUCKTARD?

 

[Opet]

There's that word again.

Kushantaiidan: Oh yeah, I had a friend who smoked, and every chance I got, I would take a random cig out of his pack, insert it butt in into my nose, then returned it to the pack.

Oh man...that's rough!

 

[Kushantaiidan]

My word!!

I'm as rough as teflon, and don't you forget it.

 

[Nico16]

I agree that smoking regularly is just stupid. But hey, I don't HATE everyone who smokes, I just see no reason for that - I can't stand it when people smoke in closed rooms when I'm around, but you almost can't avoid that if you don't want to be alone all the time. It's their problem if they get cancer/die earlier than usual. Even I smoke sometimes, when I'm very stressed. It is the same as with alcohol - too much is bad, but if you consume that poison only sometimes, it's ok. So now I'm a "FUCKTARD" or what?

 

[Torgoth]

I smoke Boston lights and Smart lights, I've been smoking for ~6 years, and it doesn't really bother me. I know it is stupid(and expensive), but it calms me down. If I die young cause of tobacco, then I die, I am not planning to live 60 years old

 

[Satori]

Tobacco is not a very good drug. Here are my reasons for thinking this:

- it's not all that thrilling/fun/intellectually stimulating
- the buzz only lasts for a short time
- you have consume a shit-load of it to get any effect
- it irritates the throat and lungs
- it's horribly fucking addictive and hard to stop
- once addicted you have to do it very often and it takes up much or your time
- it's stinks (therefore, you stink)
- it makes you look like a dirt-bag
- it's expensive
- it's extremely extremely bad for your health (much worse than most people will EVER realize/admit)

Tobacco has so many huge down sides and the only benefit (calmness and metal alertness) isn't so great that it justifies the negative.

I have a bit of a personal hatred toward tobacco, it has been slowly killing my mother for the last 20 years. She has advanced emphasema and can only breath shallow breaths in the upper part of her lungs. It's kinda sick to see her wheezing and straining for breath with her chest muscles. It's really sad to see her gasping for air with her oxygen/ventolin mask on only to see her take it off to take a big haul off a ciggarette and then put it back on again. Smokers, if you are unable to quit this will almost certainly be your fate as well in about 30 years or so.

I'm a huge proponent of the nicotine inhaler that is now on the market (by perscription I think/hope). It'll help those who want to quit but it can also help those who can't quit, who would rather die than go without this pointless drug. I'd like my mother to be on it, but I wonder it would just prolong her life/suffering and be a bad thing. I dunno. I feel like her lungs are destroyed and there's really no hope of improvement. What a sad sad way to spend the latter part of your life, living for a drug which had lost it's appeal 20 years ago and you now hate, living for a drug which is slowly and painfully killing you. Pleasant thought.

Satori

 

[Satori]

Originally posted by Torgoth
I smoke Boston lights and Smart lights, I've been smoking for ~6 years, and it doesn't really bother me. I know it is stupid(and expensive), but it calms me down. If I die young cause of tobacco, then I die, I am not planning to live 60 years old

I see, so you are just planning on living the later years of your life in ill health.

I think the focus of life should be on quality, not quantity, something I feel you haven't considered since you plan to willfully degrade your health (and thus the quality of your life) till you die.

When I'm 55 I plan to be able to do stuff like walk my dog, walk up stairs with ease, play with my grandchildren, etc. Do you? If so, are you sure you'll be able to with fucked lungs?

Satori

 

[Austin7]

No, I guess I just never saw the point.

 

[Torgoth]

Originally posted by Satori



I see, so you are just planning on living the later years of your life in ill health.

No, I'm not, if get cancer, I'm not going to stay here suffering, I know I can end my life by own hand.

I think the focus of life should be on quality, not quantity, something I feel you haven't considered since you plan to willfully degrade your health (and thus the quality of your life) till you die.

When I'm 55 I plan to be able to do stuff like walk my dog, walk up stairs with ease, play with my grandchildren, etc. Do you? If so, are you sure you'll be able to with fucked lungs?

Satori

Well, I have relatives, that have smoked over 40 years and are still able to do those things. But, I am not thinking so far to the future, "I live today, if I die tomorrow, so what, shit happens, I don't really care". I don't mean to insult you or anyone, but I quess that my life doesn't have an effect to your life, so what you care?

 

[Jannet]

....(this doesn't count for girls because some girls smoke to surpress their diet)

If a female feels the need to use cigarettes to control her weight, she is self loathing and doesn't have the self control to watch what she eats. What a stupid way to control weight! Swap good looks for dirty lungs, ridiculous. I say, everything you mentioned before applies to both sexes.

 

[Jannet]

"I live today, if I die tomorrow, so what, shit happens, I don't really care".

Sad, but whatever.

 

[Satori]

Originally posted by Torgoth
I don't mean to insult you or anyone, but I quess that my life doesn't have an effect to your life, so what you care?

Don't worry about being insulting, heheh

The thing is I do care and I can't change that, nor do I want to. It's not something I really think about or am even conscious of most of the time. But of course, I respect your right to do as you wish with you life/health.

Satori

 

[Torgoth]

Originally posted by Jannet


Sad, but whatever.

Why is it sad? Cause I'm not afraid of death or "death"? Cause I don't care life in this body? I have my own religious visions and this life has little meaning to me. I'm not going to discuss my religion in here, but I can say, that I'm not christian, and I don't belong to church. But I believe in gods, and even Jesus Christ(he was great conjurer).

I'm sorry, my english is shit.

 

[Jannet]

It's the life you are aware of, and I say cherish it and enjoy it as long as you can. You can have all the religious beliefs you want, but THIS LIFE, YOUR BODY is what is real, not what could be once you die. You have no clue what's going to happen, so you're just going to bank on faith and abuse your body because you THINK there's something better in the future? Well, it's your body, do what you want. I for one will stay as healthy as I can, live my life to the fullest, and enjoy it to its extent!

 

[Torgoth]

Originally posted by Satori

The thing is I do care and I can't change that, nor do I want to.

Satori

I had same "problem", when I was younger (and I don't mean that you are younger than me or anything), but stupid people has beaten me up so many times(it's been years since last time), that I stopped caring anyone, and nowadays I'm happy about that. Nowadays I can't even imagine how hard it was to care humans. In the end, after all most of humans are so fucking stupid, that being worried about them, is waste of time and energy. Just let those bastard live their own pathetic life in way they choose(or are forced to choose).