So I just called the police

[AsModEe]

I'd get pissed off too, but calling the police? LOL

 

[Liverslapper]

yeah...calling the police was a little harsh. Meh, oh well

 

[firewalkjen]

Not to rail at deathstrike, but no, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your car. But calling the cops because people are chucking cigarette butts near it (which is immensely rude, by the way), and then making a thread about it with the sole intention of mentioning your GTP and its wide range of useless accessories is a bit silly.

What, you wanna throw down? hehe jk I see your point.

 

[firewalkjen]

If that's true than judging by your shoe collection you must be one step away from either whoring yourself out to clowns or trying to swallow your own tongue.
Feck off.

I wasn't directing that statement at you. calm down.

BTW I love you so, Mr Wonderful!

 

[El Stormo]

If I had a nice car like deathstrike, i wouldn't want people throwing shit like that at the car. Nothing wrong with what deathstrike did. If any of you had a very nice car like, you would get pissed off from a rock chip on my windshield im sure.

Yeah, it's not the being pissed. It's the calling the cops and then making a thread, being sure to mention the splendidness of your car and its ludicrous options that make us lol quietly.

What, you wanna throw down? hehe jk I see your point.

"throw down"? This expression is not in my memory banks, I fear.

 

[derek]

This thread is Wagnerian Epic of bullshit.

He'd probably appreciate the gushing egos too.

 

[Dead Winter]

If you have a problem with people throwing cigarettes out of their cars, don't EVER come to Italy. If you called the cops here about some crap like that, they'd probably make YOU pay for wasting their time.

 

[MFJ]

I don't think many of us feel that the minimal risk of getting blown up by a cigarette near your car is that serious. If the cigarette were to leave some kind of mark (OH NO), it can be EASILY touched up. By the way, don't drive the car. Cars are known to throw stones with their tires. Imagine the nice dinger you'll get on your bumpers and hood, and even dings or cracks in your windshield that you'll be getting.

If you're going to own a car that would make you so uptight about things that nobody has ANY control over (and yes, NOBODY has control over people throwing cigarettes out of their window. if you smoked, you'd do the exact same thing... and this is coming from someone, me, that DOESN'T smoke), then is it REALLY worth the thousands of dollars put into the car, when you think that everyone should revolve around it and worship it when you piss and moan about the smaaaaaall chance of you even needing SOME sort of minor touch-up job that would be QUITE inferior to the price of the actual car itself?

People with fancy cars that they want everyone to BE EXTRA CAREFUL AROUND, even though they were the dumbass to put so much money out to buy it bother me. People shouldn't change their ordinary behavior simply because the Pope of the Road is next to them.

BAM THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

seriously though... I smoke, but I never litter with anything (thats what the ashtray in my car is for), but if someone called the police on me for throwing a smoke out of my window, I would hunt that person down and fucking kill them and burn them with cigarettes. Chances are the cops laughed when you hung up the phone, and that they don't give a fuck at all anyway. That's the funniest part of this whole story!

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

I wasn't directing that statement at you. calm down.

I know.

BTW I love you so, Mr Wonderful!

I know.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

And I don't mean I know, and I remotely like you back; I mean I know and I'm trying to rub it in that someone like you will never come anywhere near anyone even close to my league.

 

[Lordlucid]

Okay for one, groundworks are the gay. adding spoiler that serves no purpose other then looks..... Gay.... Driving a Grand Prix.... gay.
Wanting to make your car look good is one thing. You know like some nice rims or a better paint job. Wanting to make your car run better is even more awesome, I have no problems with that.
Making your car look like it jumped right outta the gay pride parade is just stupid.

There is no way in hell a cigarette is gonna be Disastrous to you and your car. Its cool that you don't like littering and all. But come on, you drive a car to get around.

BTW I Dislike lazy people who throw cigarettes out of their cars. In northern California during the dry seasons, throwing your cigs can cause pretty epic fires. Hell everywhere that can happen. Just look at LA, every year like clockwork houses are destroyed by fires. /rant

 

[deathstrike from hell]

Okay for one, groundworks are the gay. adding spoiler that serves no purpose other then looks..... Gay.... Driving a Grand Prix.... gay.
Wanting to make your car look good is one thing. You know like some nice rims or a better paint job. Wanting to make your car run better is even more awesome, I have no problems with that.
Making your car look like it jumped right outta the gay pride parade is just stupid.

There is no way in hell a cigarette is gonna be Disastrous to you and your car. Its cool that you don't like littering and all. But come on, you drive a car to get around.

BTW I Dislike lazy people who throw cigarettes out of their cars. In northern California during the dry seasons, throwing your cigs can cause pretty epic fires. Hell everywhere that can happen. Just look at LA, every year like clockwork houses are destroyed by fires. /rant

Ok.

A. Ground effects + spoilers= better aerodynamics for your car resulting in better performance and better gas mileage. im talking the actual stock ground effects on a gtp, not glow in the dark lights or anything of the sort.

B. How are grand prixs gay??? STOCK it runs at 14.5 - 14.9. Line up a gtp against a mustang gt. RWD car like the GTP is usually best raced from a dig. When a FWD accelerates the weight transfers to the wrong axle, making it harder for them to hook up from a dig than a RWD car, stock for stock. Plus the driver in a FWD car has to wrestle with the steering wheel more on a hard launch than a driver in a RWD car.

Still, with all that low-end torque, if you can modify a GTP to hook up on the line they have the potential to really slingshot out of the hole...

(looks EXACTLY like mine, minus the 2 inch spoiler). i also use the l.e.d. foglights.

This thread went way off topic. I'm not saying i'm the "pope of the road", I just don't like shit thrown at my car purposely. It'd be different if it was once, but the fucking kids threw 3 lit ciggs.

To all the people that say cops have nothing better to do, i live in a city of only 450 people. We have plenty of cops and time.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

The only pontiac worth bragging about imho is the gto. Gtp is just a grand prix with a stock racing suspension and 75 more horse.

 

[deathstrike from hell]

The only pontiac worth bragging about imho is the gto. Gtp is just a grand prix with a stock racing suspension and 75 more horse.

Overview

Models:
Pontiac Grand Prix, GT, GTP, GTP with Competition Group option
Body style / driveline:
5-passenger, front-engine, front-drive sedan
Construction:
unitized body frame, 1- and 2-sided galvanized steel
EPA vehicle class:
midsize sedan
Manufacturing location:
Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
Key competitors:
Nissan Maxima, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord
Engines

3800 3.8L Series III V-6 (L26)
3800 SC 3.8L Supercharged Series III V-6 (L32)
Application:
std on Grand Prix and GT
std on GTP
Type:
3.8L V-6
3.8L supercharged V-6
Displacement (cu in / cc):
231 / 3791
231 / 3791
Bore & stroke (in / mm):
3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36
3.80 x 3.40 / 96.52 x 86.36
Block material:
cast iron
cast iron
Cylinder head material:
cast iron
cast iron
Valvetrain:
OHV, 2 valves per cylinder
OHV, 2 valves per cylinder
Ignition system:
electronic
electronic
Fuel delivery:
sequential-port fuel injection
sequential-port fuel injection
Compression ratio:
9.4:1
8.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
200 / 145 @ 5200
260 / 186 @ 5400
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
230 / 312 @ 4000
280 / 380 @ 3600
Recommended fuel:
87 octane
92 octane recommended
Maximum engine speed (rpm):
5900
5800
Emissions controls:
catalytic converter/EGR
catalytic converter/EGR
Estimated fuel economy:
MPG (city / hwy / combined)
20 / 30 / 24
18 / 28 / 22
MPIG (city / hwy / combined)
24 / 40 / 29
22 / 37 / 27
22 / 34 / 26 - with TAP
L/100km (city / hwy / combined)
11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7
12.6 / 7.6 / 10.4
13.0 / 8.3 / 10.9 - with TAP
Transmission
Type:
Hydra-Matic 4T65-E 4-speed electronic automatic FWD transverse
Gear ratios 1):
First:
2.92
Second:
1.57
Third:
1.00
Fourth:
0.71
Reverse:
2.39
Final drive ratio:
3800: 3.05:1 (Grand Prix, GT)
3800 SC: 2.93:1 (GTP)
3800 SC: 3.29:1 (GTP with Comp G Package)
Chassis/Suspension
Front:
MacPherson struts with coil springs, lower A-arm, 20-mm solid anti-roll bar
Rear:
independent, tri-link coil over strut, 17.2-mm anti-roll bar on Grand Prix/GT/GTP
Steering type:
low-friction rack and pinion, power-assisted with Magnasteer I on Grand Prix/GT/GTP, Magnasteer II on GTP with Comp G
Steering ratio:
13.2:1
Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
2.4
Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
37.4 / 11.3
Brakes
Type:
4-wheel disc, ABS std on GT and GTP, opt on Grand Prix;
front: vented discs, power assisted;
rear: solid discs, power assisted
Rotor diameter:
front: 11.7 / 297; rear: 10.5 / 270
Wheels/Tires

Grand Prix, GT
GTP
GTP Comp G
Wheel size and type:
16-inch steel, 16-inch 5-spoke aluminum (GT2)
17-inch 5-spoke aluminum, std tire inflation monitoring system
17-inch multi-spoke aluminum, std tire inflation monitoring system
Tires:
Goodyear Eagle LSP225/60R16, S speed-rated
Michelin Energy P225/55R17, H speed-rated
Goodrich Comp T/A P225/55R17, V speed-rated
Dimensions

Exterior

Grand Prix
GT
GTP
Wheelbase (in / mm):
110.5 / 2807
110.5 / 2807
110.5 / 2807
Overall length (in / mm):
198.3 / 5038
198.3 / 5038
198.3 / 5038
Overall width (in / mm):
73.8 / 1875
73.8 / 1875
73.8 / 1875
Overall height (in / mm):
55.9 / 1420
55.9 / 1420
55.9 / 1420
Track (in / mm):




front: 61.7 / 1568
front: 61.7 / 1568
front: 61.7 / 1568

rear: 62.1 / 1577
rear: 62.1 / 1577
rear: 62.1 / 1577
Curb weight (lb / kg):
3477 / 1577
3484 / 1581
3583 / 1625
Weight distribution (% front / rear):
62 / 38
62 / 38
N/A
Interior
Seating capacity (front / rear):
2 / 3
Head room (in / mm):
front: 38.5 / 978; rear: 36.5 / 928
Leg room (in / mm):
front: 42.4 / 1076; rear: 36.5 / 926
Shoulder room (in / mm):
front: 57.9 / 1472; rear: 55.5 / 1410
Hip room (in / mm):
front: 54.6 / 1388; rear: 53.5 / 1360
Capacities
EPA interior volume (cu ft / L):
114 / 3228
Cargo volume (cu ft / L):
16 / 453; 57 / 1614 with all seats folded down
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
1000 / 454
Fuel tank (gal / L):
17 / 64.3
Engine oil (qt / L):
3.8L engine: 4.3 / 4.1
Cooling system (qt / L):
3.8L engine: 11.2 / 10.6



There's a LOT of differences here james.

 

[El Stormo]

Dude, seriously, it's just a car. The more you rant about it, the less convinced we become.

 

[teredd]

Overview

Models:
Pontiac Grand Prix, GT, GTP, GTP with Competition Group option
Body style / driveline:
5-passenger, front-engine, front-drive sedan
Construction:
unitized body frame, 1- and 2-sided galvanized steel
EPA vehicle class:
midsize sedan
Manufacturing location:
Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
Key competitors:
Nissan Maxima, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord
Engines

3800 3.8L Series III V-6 (L26)
3800 SC 3.8L Supercharged Series III V-6 (L32)
Application:
std on Grand Prix and GT
std on GTP
Type:
3.8L V-6
3.8L supercharged V-6
Displacement (cu in / cc):
231 / 3791
231 / 3791
Bore & stroke (in / mm):
3.8 x 3.4 / 96.52 x 86.36
3.80 x 3.40 / 96.52 x 86.36
Block material:
cast iron
cast iron
Cylinder head material:
cast iron
cast iron
Valvetrain:
OHV, 2 valves per cylinder
OHV, 2 valves per cylinder
Ignition system:
electronic
electronic
Fuel delivery:
sequential-port fuel injection
sequential-port fuel injection
Compression ratio:
9.4:1
8.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
200 / 145 @ 5200
260 / 186 @ 5400
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
230 / 312 @ 4000
280 / 380 @ 3600
Recommended fuel:
87 octane
92 octane recommended
Maximum engine speed (rpm):
5900
5800
Emissions controls:
catalytic converter/EGR
catalytic converter/EGR
Estimated fuel economy:
MPG (city / hwy / combined)
20 / 30 / 24
18 / 28 / 22
MPIG (city / hwy / combined)
24 / 40 / 29
22 / 37 / 27
22 / 34 / 26 - with TAP
L/100km (city / hwy / combined)
11.8 / 7.1 / 9.7
12.6 / 7.6 / 10.4
13.0 / 8.3 / 10.9 - with TAP
Transmission
Type:
Hydra-Matic 4T65-E 4-speed electronic automatic FWD transverse
Gear ratios 1):
First:
2.92
Second:
1.57
Third:
1.00
Fourth:
0.71
Reverse:
2.39
Final drive ratio:
3800: 3.05:1 (Grand Prix, GT)
3800 SC: 2.93:1 (GTP)
3800 SC: 3.29:1 (GTP with Comp G Package)
Chassis/Suspension
Front:
MacPherson struts with coil springs, lower A-arm, 20-mm solid anti-roll bar
Rear:
independent, tri-link coil over strut, 17.2-mm anti-roll bar on Grand Prix/GT/GTP
Steering type:
low-friction rack and pinion, power-assisted with Magnasteer I on Grand Prix/GT/GTP, Magnasteer II on GTP with Comp G
Steering ratio:
13.2:1
Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
2.4
Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
37.4 / 11.3
Brakes
Type:
4-wheel disc, ABS std on GT and GTP, opt on Grand Prix;
front: vented discs, power assisted;
rear: solid discs, power assisted
Rotor diameter:
front: 11.7 / 297; rear: 10.5 / 270
Wheels/Tires

Grand Prix, GT
GTP
GTP Comp G
Wheel size and type:
16-inch steel, 16-inch 5-spoke aluminum (GT2)
17-inch 5-spoke aluminum, std tire inflation monitoring system
17-inch multi-spoke aluminum, std tire inflation monitoring system
Tires:
Goodyear Eagle LSP225/60R16, S speed-rated
Michelin Energy P225/55R17, H speed-rated
Goodrich Comp T/A P225/55R17, V speed-rated
Dimensions

Exterior

Grand Prix
GT
GTP
Wheelbase (in / mm):
110.5 / 2807
110.5 / 2807
110.5 / 2807
Overall length (in / mm):
198.3 / 5038
198.3 / 5038
198.3 / 5038
Overall width (in / mm):
73.8 / 1875
73.8 / 1875
73.8 / 1875
Overall height (in / mm):
55.9 / 1420
55.9 / 1420
55.9 / 1420
Track (in / mm):




front: 61.7 / 1568
front: 61.7 / 1568
front: 61.7 / 1568

rear: 62.1 / 1577
rear: 62.1 / 1577
rear: 62.1 / 1577
Curb weight (lb / kg):
3477 / 1577
3484 / 1581
3583 / 1625
Weight distribution (% front / rear):
62 / 38
62 / 38
N/A
Interior
Seating capacity (front / rear):
2 / 3
Head room (in / mm):
front: 38.5 / 978; rear: 36.5 / 928
Leg room (in / mm):
front: 42.4 / 1076; rear: 36.5 / 926
Shoulder room (in / mm):
front: 57.9 / 1472; rear: 55.5 / 1410
Hip room (in / mm):
front: 54.6 / 1388; rear: 53.5 / 1360
Capacities
EPA interior volume (cu ft / L):
114 / 3228
Cargo volume (cu ft / L):
16 / 453; 57 / 1614 with all seats folded down
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
1000 / 454
Fuel tank (gal / L):
17 / 64.3
Engine oil (qt / L):
3.8L engine: 4.3 / 4.1
Cooling system (qt / L):
3.8L engine: 11.2 / 10.6



There's a LOT of differences here james.

...where's the aerodynamic specs? Come on Man. I want DATA!

 

[firewalkjen]

Dude, seriously, it's just a car. The more you rant about it, the less convinced we become.

Yes, all that really wasn't even neccessary

BTW Throw Down meaning fight. tehehe

 

[firewalkjen]

And I don't mean I know, and I remotely like you back; I mean I know and I'm trying to rub it in that someone like you will never come anywhere near anyone even close to my league.

Oh! I just want to give you a great big kiss!!

 

[The Grayfox]

I throw cigarettes out my window all the time while I'm driving. I just did it a few times a little bit ago. And if you were behind me, I'd AIM for your car. And then you'd call the cops, and they wouldn't do a fucking thing, because they have more important shit to worry about.

 

[AsModEe]

I throw cigarettes out my window all the time while I'm driving. I just did it a few times a little bit ago. And if you were behind me, I'd AIM for your car. And then you'd call the cops, and they wouldn't do a fucking thing, because they have more important shit to worry about.

ahahahahah