Soccer Questions

[JayKeeley]

http://www.soccerhelp.com/Soccer_Tips_Dictionary_Terms_I_J.shtml
A type of "free kick" given after minor fouls such as obstruction. On an indirect kick, another player (on either team) must touch the ball before a goal can be scored. Question: "How do you know if a free kick is indirect?" Answer: "The referee will raise his arm above his head and leave it up until the ball is kicked". On an indirect kick you should have one player gently tap the ball so another player standing behind the ball can kick it; or pass it to someone who shoots it. If on an Indirect Free Kick the ball is kicked into the goal without anyone else touching it (other than the kicker) the goal does not count and the other team is awarded a goal kick. However, if the ball is touched by a player on either team, including the goalkeeper, before it goes into the goal, the goal counts.(See "Free Kick" & "Fouls").

Yeah but that all describes the difference between direct and indirect free kicks. The question is, how is it decided which one is given? Is it dependent on the severity of the foul, or just down to the referee's discretion?

 

[General Zod]

Now we're in knockout stages, so teams are firing on all cylinders. the Italy v Australia game today should be filled with blood, sweat, and tears (as opposed to blood, fire, and death which I know you disregard).

It's a shame these games are on while everyone's at work. That's certainly not going to help the popularity of soccer in the US.

Zod

 

[General Zod]

It's called footbal, not soccer.

Not in the US.

Zod

 

[Hell Mike]

Minor fouls such as obstruction close to the goal as opposed to big fouls such as kicking a free player in the nuts close to the goal which will give a penalty kick

edit: can't be arsed to add a quote so GUESS

 

[Hell Mike]

It's a shame these games are on while everyone's at work. That's certainly not going to help the popularity of soccer in the US.

Zod

Well, they're on at ace times here where it matters

 

[JayKeeley]

It's a shame these games are on while everyone's at work. That's certainly not going to help the popularity of soccer in the US.

Zod

It's tough, especially since they're not showing any replays/highlights in the evening. I've had to take time off work for all the dates England could be playing (depending on how far they go).

EDIT: I also sometimes sneak out to catch the 2nd half of a game.

The next world cup will be held in South Africa, so the same time difference issues will occur.

 

[General Zod]

Well, they're on at ace times here where it matters

I'm not disputing that. My only point is, having the games on during the day, won't help improve the popularity of the sport here in the states. I wasn't suggesting that they should be scheduled at the convenience at the American audience. That would obviously be silly, given the interest level here.

Zod

 

[Scope]

The question is, how is it decided which one is given? Is it dependent on the severity of the foul, or just down to the referee's discretion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_free_kick

An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team when a player commits a foul other than a penal foul (e.g. dangerous play) or infringes certain technical requirements of the laws (e.g. touching the ball a second time following a restart). An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team when play is stopped to caution or send-off a player when no specific foul has occurred (e.g. when play is stopped to caution a player for dissenting the decision of the referee). The most common cause is the offside offense.

Unlike a direct free kick, an offence punishable by an indirect free kick does not result in a penalty kick when it occurs in the penalty area, rather it continues to be taken as an indirect free kick.

:danceboy: :danceboy: :danceboy:

 

[General Zod]

It's tough, especially since they're not showing any replays/highlights in the evening.

Huh? They're not showing highlights on ESPN? Are you sure? And if so, why?

Zod

 

[JayKeeley]

Huh? They're not showing highlights on ESPN? Are you sure? And if so, why?

Zod

Nope. No idea why. I do have the Fox Soccer channel but since they don't have rights to the games, they can't even show the replays (just still images).

I can go to fifa.com and watch the 2 minute highlights. They're in hi-res but yeah, the only other sensible option is to tape or TiVo the game.

 

[General Zod]

Nope. No idea why. I do have the Fox Soccer channel but since they don't have rights to the games, they can't even show the replays (just still images).

I bet it has to do with some sort of exclusivity contract with ESPN. I'll check tonight. I'd bet anything ESPN is showing highlights.

...the only other sensible option is to tape or TiVo the game.

I may do that.

Zod

 

[General Zod]

I bet it has to do with some sort of exclusivity contract with ESPN. I'll check tonight. I'd bet anything ESPN is showing highlights.

Yep... ESPN has exclusivity rights. I was just watching highlights of today's match between Australia and Italy on ESPN. It makes sense, as they paid a buttload for the rights, and they're not allowed to advertise during the games. It's just good business that they force people to tune in for highlights.

Zod

 

[dorian gray]

Wow. Zod becomes a soccer fan. Can't believe it.

 

[JayKeeley]

Yep... ESPN has exclusivity rights. I was just watching highlights of today's match between Australia and Italy on ESPN. It makes sense, as they paid a buttload for the rights, and they're not allowed to advertise during the games. It's just good business that they force people to tune in for highlights.

Zod

OK cool but wait a sec...when were the highlights shown? Which show should I be looking for in the tv listings?

 

[General Zod]

OK cool but wait a sec...when were the highlights shown? Which show should I be looking for in the tv listings?

Sportscenter, which is on 12 times a day. Also, they probably have a soccer show, that runs daily, during the World Cup. Also, ESPN News, assuming you get it, is nothing but the same show, every 30 minutes, updated with the latest and greatest highlights/results.

Zod

 

[JayKeeley]

OK I'll check it out -- is SportsCenter or ESPN news showing only the goals, or are they showing all the highlights including the actual gameplay?

 

[General Zod]

OK I'll check it out -- is SportsCenter or ESPN news showing only the goals, or are they showing all the highlights including the actual gameplay?

Sportscenter, probably a bit more than the goals, but not much. As I said, they probably have a 30 minute show each day, dedicated to the World Cup. That would be the one to catch for in depth analysis and highlights that go beyond goals.

Zod

 

[General Zod]

Wow. Zod becomes a soccer fan. Can't believe it.

It's much cooler than I expected. Also, much more phyical. Since I'm an avid sports fan, I've always enjoyed watching the finals of anything. There's a great appeal to a one and done format.

Zod

 

[lizard]

DORIAN, GIVE IN TO THE FORCE

 

[dorian gray]

Haha I tried. I am finding it strange that as such an avid player/fan for most of my life, it's lost all appeal. The only reason I can think of is that I got so into hockey and it fulfills all my sporting needs. Soccer is indeed a great sport requiring a tremendous amount of skill but if I could go back in time, I would have never played it, instead focusing my energy into hockey. Alas.