I am sure that some of the good music being made now was being made back than no one would care.
someone care to explain the beatles to me?
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I am sure that some of the good music being made now was being made back than no one would care.
I can see why some would not get it. I did like the Beatles until Jimi, Janis and Zep. For those that may lean to the heavier side of music and werent around then I can see why they would not understand. Like others have implied they were pretty much a step ahead of everyone in that form of music and did write some great songs but they also had some that I never saw the point of... but then I wasnt doing LSD.
Rocky Racoon is a pisser
F&F, its not your opinion people are concerned with its the statement and what you are not hearing. You'll understand all the various forms of talent and the differences in peoples playing one day, its not all about being viruosos or "copying". The Beatles did put alot of thought into their music and led rock away from the roll during the 60's. In other words replaced the Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry type of RnR.
The one idea about harmonies, melodies and such is ignoring bands like The Beach Boys, The Byrds, CSN, The Supremes, The Jackson Five and all the other Motown stuff too. Im sure they listened to the Beatles but I think their bulbs would have burned brightly in those departments regardless.
Im not a fan but I understand fully their musical merit.
Rocky Racoon is a pisser
F&F, its not your opinion people are concerned with its the statement and what you are not hearing. You'll understand all the various forms of talent and the differences in peoples playing one day, its not all about being viruosos or "copying". The Beatles did put alot of thought into their music and led rock away from the roll during the 60's. In other words replaced the Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry type of RnR.
The one idea about harmonies, melodies and such is ignoring bands like The Beach Boys, The Byrds, CSN, The Supremes, The Jackson Five and all the other Motown stuff too. Im sure they listened to the Beatles but I think their bulbs would have burned brightly in those departments regardless.
Im not a fan but I understand fully their musical merit.
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I'd say The White Album would be a good place to start. It's got a great range of stuff on it, and it's a double album. The thing about the band is that they had their poppy, kids friendly stuff like Yellow Submarine and Ob La Di, Ob La Da which were largely written by either Ringo Starr or Paul McCartney. I think a lot of people write the band off because of this lighter, fluffier material coupled with the fact that they were so hugely popular. I find some of that material ok and that's what drew me to the band as a child, but it's the other stuff I love the most.
Abbey Road and Revolver are fantastic albums as well.
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My mom is a huge Beatles fan and me, being an older fart, grew up listening to them. I had pretty much burned out on them until I saw the Cirque du Soleil show in Vegas. Hearing the songs remixed did wonders. They had some really great stuff.
Yea, Ringos a quirky Dude. Its funny, I just sat here the other night and a recent Ringo show was on. People just love him I guess, the atmosphere of the concert seemed pretty easy though, he talked some and I found out he wrote a few of the songs I never... but later... should have realized he wrote.
Im suprised no ones mentioned their old movies. I remember I used to laugh my ass off when I was a kid watching those. Didnt like yellow submarine which came later on.
Im suprised no ones mentioned their old movies. I remember I used to laugh my ass off when I was a kid watching those. Didnt like yellow submarine which came later on.
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The stuff Syd wrote was highly influenced by the Beatles actually, it wasn't until DSOTM that they actually redefined their sound imo... I don't understand what you mean though, when you say he was an "Experimental person". He did a lot of drugs?
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There was no internet, or tons of fan-zines, or fan clubs then. You had radio, that was it. So of course, Floyd and other upstarts heard it from the Beatles...on the Radio...shit their pants "wow! They're gonna confuse some people...great! We'll do it, but even better, with more musical dexterity!" Radio wouldn't have played more experimental music if it came from a band( mind you, this was in the early-mid 60's, before FM radio)that was unknown. The Beatles knew they could get away with it. I'm glad they didn't continue to just write 3 minute pop. It's cool that they cared to try open people's minds. The Beach Boys (hate em') were doing it at the same time, but overall, the Beatles to everybody then could do no wrong.
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And, John Lennon did most of his Protesting after the Beatles break up. They almost broke up a few times from 68-70 Like I stated in my first post, must have not read it...They started it, and saved us ten or more years of waiting for the likes of Zep, Yes, Sabbath, Floyd...etc. I'm not a big fan of the Rolling Stones, but Aerosmith, and the likes might not have been, so I respect them for starting what they did. Did you forget about the Beatle clones Oasis? They were big just a few years ago, eh?
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This thread inspired me to listen to The Beatles right now...
There was a period of a week or two where The White Album blew my fuckin' mind. But other than that I've never spent more than a half hour a year listening to The Beatles. But I definetly like them and enjoy it when other people put them on. I'm not really even sure WHY I like them, but it's just solid stuff. Nice to hear on occasion, ya know?
I don't think they're remotely better than the various other "best band ever" candidates, but I do think they're abundantly worthy of their fame.
There was a period of a week or two where The White Album blew my fuckin' mind. But other than that I've never spent more than a half hour a year listening to The Beatles. But I definetly like them and enjoy it when other people put them on. I'm not really even sure WHY I like them, but it's just solid stuff. Nice to hear on occasion, ya know?
I don't think they're remotely better than the various other "best band ever" candidates, but I do think they're abundantly worthy of their fame.
One of my favorite old bands, Crack the Sky, had named the Beatles as a large influence and it can be heard in some songs and perhaps the entire Animal Notes concept recording. They even did a live version of I am the Walrus, which I do not like any version of, and shut the tape off at that point everytime. Outside of that I can tie no direct link to the Beatles sound in the music I listen too. AND that may be due to my lack of fimiliarity to any Beatles songs that did not get played on the radio throughout the 60's.
Wasnt Eric Clapton an important contributor for the song "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" ?
I think they all(except maybe Ringo) did some decent solo work after the band. Lennons stuff was probably the best. Some of Pauls music was downright progressive but with the quirkyness. George was a bit activist with his Bengladesh thing... right ?
What happened to Lennons son... ? Julian ? FOr a moment there, at one time he seemed like a future for the Lennon sound.
Wasnt Eric Clapton an important contributor for the song "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" ?
I think they all(except maybe Ringo) did some decent solo work after the band. Lennons stuff was probably the best. Some of Pauls music was downright progressive but with the quirkyness. George was a bit activist with his Bengladesh thing... right ?
What happened to Lennons son... ? Julian ? FOr a moment there, at one time he seemed like a future for the Lennon sound.
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Yep, he played lead guitar on the studio recording of the song...George Harrison still wrote it though.
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Those two also seem to be the two I remember Beatles fans from those times talking about. Just sayin... from the aspect of not having been a fan.
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Julian put out a few albums...definitely sounds/looks more like his father than Sean(Shawn?)I have all but his first (Vollate) and latest. His albums are a mixed bag of soft rock, alternative, pop...you name it. They're decent, but nothing extraordinary. I tended to like Harrison-penned songs the best. But solo artist wise, I like McCartney/Wings stuff. Very pop-oriented, mostly, but oh so infectiously catchy!!
yea Wings was pop for sure but didnt a couple of them go along ways? Like on a trip... more progressive than conventional? It was pretty involved for radio music at the time, so I recall. Paul was actually pretty talented. He had a bunch of great bass lines, harmonies and such.... plus he was left handed.... thats a +5 right there, over... "you's conventionals".... [tongue in cheek]
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Yes razoedge, you're right! On some of Paul's solo work. Uncle Albert is actually a long song...around 20 minutes I think. Back to the Egg is great, along with Ram. A lot of the greatest bassists talk of Paul being too underrated, and a big influence, having "bouncy" bass lines.
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I love almost every Beatles song. They were influential, we can all agree on that, but if you can't see their songwriting talent or appreciate where they were coming from with their music, well I guess that's just too bad.
