Song Survivor ROUND TWO - Ghost Reveries
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FRUGiHOYi
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@ Vuashke:
Dont you dare try to make comparsions if you dont like the heavy side of opeth, it just makes you look stupid. You cant say that hours of wealth is years ahead of Hounds when you actually dislike growls and distorted guitars which are, mind you, what opeth is MOSTLY about. I cant see why you are here discussing, even debating, about your opinion when you dislike 80 % of this band's work. Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion and you've stated it but saying that "there is like one nice part in Hounds" is basically asking for a fight.
I voted Harlequin forest btw, if the acoustic intro had been included in the actual song I would rate it higher
Dont you dare try to make comparsions if you dont like the heavy side of opeth, it just makes you look stupid. You cant say that hours of wealth is years ahead of Hounds when you actually dislike growls and distorted guitars which are, mind you, what opeth is MOSTLY about. I cant see why you are here discussing, even debating, about your opinion when you dislike 80 % of this band's work. Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion and you've stated it but saying that "there is like one nice part in Hounds" is basically asking for a fight.
I voted Harlequin forest btw, if the acoustic intro had been included in the actual song I would rate it higher
if you took it as me starting a fight then fine
and YES i can make comparisons, because all im doing is stating my opinion. im not stating fact, im starting MY opinion based on MY tastes and preferences. thats why I (not you) said there was one nice part in hounds, because its simply my opinion. by your logic unless you like both growls and clean singing EQUALLY you may as well 'not dare' making comparisons because you will be biased to the one side you like slightly more
and YES i can make comparisons, because all im doing is stating my opinion. im not stating fact, im starting MY opinion based on MY tastes and preferences. thats why I (not you) said there was one nice part in hounds, because its simply my opinion. by your logic unless you like both growls and clean singing EQUALLY you may as well 'not dare' making comparisons because you will be biased to the one side you like slightly more
Carta's
Carta's > Sex
lmao @ pretending to be right on the opinion bullshit when clearly you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
i cant be wrong if im asserting my opinion
lololol
futhermore, i dont understand how you can say that 'i dont know what the fuck im talking about', as if somehow im unaware of my own likes and dislikes
if you like heavy opeth, then gr8 4 u m8. i dont, i prefer soft opeth. most people prefer heavy opeth over soft opeth, so im entitled to liking soft opeth over heavy opeth, right buddy?
lololol
futhermore, i dont understand how you can say that 'i dont know what the fuck im talking about', as if somehow im unaware of my own likes and dislikes
if you like heavy opeth, then gr8 4 u m8. i dont, i prefer soft opeth. most people prefer heavy opeth over soft opeth, so im entitled to liking soft opeth over heavy opeth, right buddy?
Still you vote against Coil in Watershed topic, leaving there such "disorted bullshit" as Heir Apparent and Lotus Eater
well obviously one cant like everything that is soft. it would be unreasonable for me to assume you like every heavy opeth song over one soft one. also, the funky part keys part in lotus eater was to my liking, as was the acoustic fingerstyle section after the first solo (i think, cbf checking) - which is in contrast to a song like wreath, which has mostly heavy stuff with a very short part that i like the most @ 9.50.
if ive offended any of you with my radical opeth likes, sorry. i didnt expect anyone to get bristled - honestly thought everyone would understand at the getgo
if ive offended any of you with my radical opeth likes, sorry. i didnt expect anyone to get bristled - honestly thought everyone would understand at the getgo
I find most opeth-songs and almost every single song-part entertaining, I don't prefer heavy sections over soft one's.
World is filled with great music, it's quite funny that you have willpower to listen opeth songs, when there is 2 minutes long section on a ten minute song that is "to your liking". It's like a guy who is a Quentin Tarantino fan, but cant stand violence in movies...
Nevertheless I can imagine why you don't like heavy Opeth, and its fine to me.
glad you think like that, and thanks for the civil response
in regards to your post, i dont believe its quite that simple. opeth has a fair number of soft songs and a fair amount of time on heavy tracks with mellow parts. and i dont listen to the heavy parts just to get to the soft part i like, i just skip ahead to the part i like and bypass the rest. BTW, the part on wreath is only about 10 seconds but i like it so much that im willing to skip ahead everytime to it, and then change songs 10 seconds later.
and i agree the world is filled with great music, and heavy opeth songs are only a very small segment of that, and opeth soft parts are probably even smaller segment. but i still stand firm on what i like and what i dont, and i respect your differing musical tastes
in regards to your post, i dont believe its quite that simple. opeth has a fair number of soft songs and a fair amount of time on heavy tracks with mellow parts. and i dont listen to the heavy parts just to get to the soft part i like, i just skip ahead to the part i like and bypass the rest. BTW, the part on wreath is only about 10 seconds but i like it so much that im willing to skip ahead everytime to it, and then change songs 10 seconds later.
and i agree the world is filled with great music, and heavy opeth songs are only a very small segment of that, and opeth soft parts are probably even smaller segment. but i still stand firm on what i like and what i dont, and i respect your differing musical tastes
Iki-ilkkuja
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I don't understand what's wrong with Hours of Wealth... the beginning's simply wonderful and it ends in a nice, bluesy way. A rock solid contrast to TGC.
i dont think anyone considers hours of wealth to be flawed, maybe they just dont think its a complete opeth track because it lacks the heavy element (which, whether i like it or not, is a major component of opeth.) having said that, i agree with you that hours of wealth is a great track, although i was hoping for a more prominent piano mix and less sort of wind/brass sounding synths
Carta's
Carta's > Sex
You don't know jack shit since I assumed you skip the parts you don't like, else you're a complete idiot because you listen to the whole Opeth discography which is like 5 hours of growls, distorted shit and double cringe-bass in your holy opinion. Go crawl under your rock and don't pretend to know more then us, if you think you do know then you're clearly an idiot.
And to "wtf I knowes whats me likes", you DON'T know cause you listen to things you dislike, meaning that a) either you like them b) you're, as stated above, a moron
And to "wtf I knowes whats me likes", you DON'T know cause you listen to things you dislike, meaning that a) either you like them b) you're, as stated above, a moron
BlueSky
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Exactly. He seems quite illogical, and close minded to the wide array of musical styles, and that's fine that he has his own opinion, but when he starts acting like the victim when he's shown zero respect for his surroundings is quite absurd.
lets see carta's
ive listened to heavy opeth many times before, dont presume to think that ive heard it once and then immediately discard it. ive tried it before, and i dont like it. if you want to keep calling me an idiot then fine, keep at it im sure itll stick one day, just dont worry about maturity or any of that garbled nonsense. stating my opinion is such blasphemy that it warrants immediate flaming.
i dont see how 'i dont know shit' because you assumed i skip the parts i dont like. like i stated earlier, i HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE, and its not to my liking. also, please point out my post in this thread in which i so blatantly proclaim or even imply that i know more than 'us' because i dont recall saying that. perhaps a misintepretation?
im sure many have listened to things they dont like a few times in an attempt to understand and enjoy it, and i have done that too. however, when i listen to older opeth albums or ones im not familar with, i dont listen to the heavy parts. i dont see the point if i dont like them, its not as if they are going to spontaneously shift into a different sound. i dont understand ur logical conclusion, if youve listened to one rap song, does that mean you like it, or you are a moron? i dont think so
once again, trying to dispute what i like is an uphill battle thats not going to be won by you anytime soon mate
ive listened to heavy opeth many times before, dont presume to think that ive heard it once and then immediately discard it. ive tried it before, and i dont like it. if you want to keep calling me an idiot then fine, keep at it im sure itll stick one day, just dont worry about maturity or any of that garbled nonsense. stating my opinion is such blasphemy that it warrants immediate flaming.
i dont see how 'i dont know shit' because you assumed i skip the parts i dont like. like i stated earlier, i HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE, and its not to my liking. also, please point out my post in this thread in which i so blatantly proclaim or even imply that i know more than 'us' because i dont recall saying that. perhaps a misintepretation?
im sure many have listened to things they dont like a few times in an attempt to understand and enjoy it, and i have done that too. however, when i listen to older opeth albums or ones im not familar with, i dont listen to the heavy parts. i dont see the point if i dont like them, its not as if they are going to spontaneously shift into a different sound. i dont understand ur logical conclusion, if youve listened to one rap song, does that mean you like it, or you are a moron? i dont think so
once again, trying to dispute what i like is an uphill battle thats not going to be won by you anytime soon mate
i think its also quite absurb that you think im close minded to the array of musical styles that exist - death metal is just one style of many. as ive said earlier i listen to alot of different music, but death metal is just not one of them
to be fair i havent been shown that much respect in turn by most people but that really doesnt matter as whether or not you or anyone else respects me doesnt affect my stance on the matter. also, illogical - i dont like heavy opeth. whats illogical?
still find it hard to believe that you would call me close minded to the array of musical styles that exist only because i dont like one simple style. fair enough i dont like heavy opeth, but i do like 'heavy' songs that exist in other genres, just not opeth
Carta's
Carta's > Sex
Clearly, I'll win since I have He Man as an avatar and not myself in a macho-naked pose.
Anyway. Let's skip the plesantries.
You are aware of the fact that Opeth is mainly a Death Metal band, are you? Let's assume you are. Then, since you dislike death metal in each aspect (from the "double bass bullshit" to the "scream crap"), you are aware that you've been listening to shit, are you? Let's assume you are.
Now, you claim that we try to listen to shitty things in order to like them. Fine by me, I did it a couple of times. BUT, I've never slacked off any other people beacuse "OMFG WTF hours of weatlh ios better songz you hackz moronz votoing for it yu don't get it" then suddenly "that's my opinion, you can't eat my opinion, everyone is entitled to his own opinion". Again, fine by me, you have your opinion, I have mine, as I always say, opinions are like assholes, to each is own (and they're full of shit).
But, keep in mind you're listening to a band that has like 80% of shitty material to you. And, since you've been tarnishing out your votes on the songs, it means to me you've achieved a certain level of confidence with them. Which you obviously should not have, since you're still claiming they're shitty.
So. You're trying first to prove anybody who votes your favourite song (favourite out of three, since there are only three tracks devoid of death metal elements on ghost reveries) a moron, then, you appease the opinion's god and call everybody an idiot again because they don't respect your opinion.
That's just hypocrite. You may not have used the words "idiot" and "moron", but everyone here knows that's what you thought, so you're just being more hypocrite by not saying them. And shut up already with the "omzg yuo can't listenz to mee thoughs".
For your information, I haven't voted Hours Of Wealth.
Anyway. Let's skip the plesantries.
You are aware of the fact that Opeth is mainly a Death Metal band, are you? Let's assume you are. Then, since you dislike death metal in each aspect (from the "double bass bullshit" to the "scream crap"), you are aware that you've been listening to shit, are you? Let's assume you are.
Now, you claim that we try to listen to shitty things in order to like them. Fine by me, I did it a couple of times. BUT, I've never slacked off any other people beacuse "OMFG WTF hours of weatlh ios better songz you hackz moronz votoing for it yu don't get it" then suddenly "that's my opinion, you can't eat my opinion, everyone is entitled to his own opinion". Again, fine by me, you have your opinion, I have mine, as I always say, opinions are like assholes, to each is own (and they're full of shit).
But, keep in mind you're listening to a band that has like 80% of shitty material to you. And, since you've been tarnishing out your votes on the songs, it means to me you've achieved a certain level of confidence with them. Which you obviously should not have, since you're still claiming they're shitty.
So. You're trying first to prove anybody who votes your favourite song (favourite out of three, since there are only three tracks devoid of death metal elements on ghost reveries) a moron, then, you appease the opinion's god and call everybody an idiot again because they don't respect your opinion.
That's just hypocrite. You may not have used the words "idiot" and "moron", but everyone here knows that's what you thought, so you're just being more hypocrite by not saying them. And shut up already with the "omzg yuo can't listenz to mee thoughs".
For your information, I haven't voted Hours Of Wealth.
BlueSky
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I find it close minded to not like distorted guitars since there's obviously huge applications for all modern rock forms. I don't listen to brutal death metal either, which I don't consider Opeth brutal since they have a huge melodic side even to their heavy sections, but if you're saying you don't like any heavy music in general then you're missing a huge aspect of music, which stems from a huge part of human nature. Plus I find it illogical to listen to a cd, and skip most of it when there is so much music out there what you should be doing is searching for new music it seems. BUT THATS MY OPINION WAH WAH. Look man I'm not going to sit here, and argue about your opinion, but don't sit here, and act the victim.
edit: I see you changed your post.
edit: I see you changed your post.
first off, "OMFG WTF hours of weatlh ios better songz you hackz moronz votoing for it yu don't get it" and "omzg yuo can't listenz to mee thoughs" is not how i speak. if you think thats the idea im projecting, you're wrong. i dont appreciate the patronising. i dont know if you care about that, but ill say it in case you do
it seems your main problem (other than that) is that i like a band thats 80% death metal, but only listen to the 20% softcock metal. ill lay it out a different way for you. say you've just heard of a new band, and youve heard 10songs, 2 of which you think are fantastic, best music youve ever heard, and the other 80 are meh, they are ok, but id prefer to have more of the other 2. wouldnt you still like them?
my situation differs even more as opeth have alot more than 2 soft songs and have many soft phrases in their heavy songs as well, so although i agree with u they are a death metal band, they have soft elements too that arent just pushed to the wayside, they do occur and more than sporadically.
also, im not trying to prove to anyone that hours of wealth or any soft song is better, im just venting a little frustration. if you misinteprete me as crusading for the good soft opeth, thats not my angle here at all, its not. maybe you would act different if our positions were reversed.
ive never bashed on anyones opinion, ive never told someone their opinion was WRONG or BAD, or that they are shit and should fuck off, and in the forseeable future i wont ever do it. im not asking you to respect my opinion or secretly wanting people to respect it, and i dont think any less of anyone because they dont share the same as me - what i said earlier was not intended to be taken so seriously (the part where i said 'oh it sounds like ass', i didnt think it sounded so flash, but others did obviously. not me however)
also, im not in some macho pose i have no idea where you got that from, all you can see is my head anyway (which is apparantly gay) and im not naked
vote for whoever you want, and dont worry about what i would think if you had of voted for something i like
it seems your main problem (other than that) is that i like a band thats 80% death metal, but only listen to the 20% softcock metal. ill lay it out a different way for you. say you've just heard of a new band, and youve heard 10songs, 2 of which you think are fantastic, best music youve ever heard, and the other 80 are meh, they are ok, but id prefer to have more of the other 2. wouldnt you still like them?
my situation differs even more as opeth have alot more than 2 soft songs and have many soft phrases in their heavy songs as well, so although i agree with u they are a death metal band, they have soft elements too that arent just pushed to the wayside, they do occur and more than sporadically.
also, im not trying to prove to anyone that hours of wealth or any soft song is better, im just venting a little frustration. if you misinteprete me as crusading for the good soft opeth, thats not my angle here at all, its not. maybe you would act different if our positions were reversed.
ive never bashed on anyones opinion, ive never told someone their opinion was WRONG or BAD, or that they are shit and should fuck off, and in the forseeable future i wont ever do it. im not asking you to respect my opinion or secretly wanting people to respect it, and i dont think any less of anyone because they dont share the same as me - what i said earlier was not intended to be taken so seriously (the part where i said 'oh it sounds like ass', i didnt think it sounded so flash, but others did obviously. not me however)
also, im not in some macho pose i have no idea where you got that from, all you can see is my head anyway (which is apparantly gay) and im not naked
vote for whoever you want, and dont worry about what i would think if you had of voted for something i like
Carta's
Carta's > Sex
^ Too bad I don't have time to formulate an appropriate reply and won't be able to do it in another week, but suffice it to say that I still think you're wrong.
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