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mehdi.i.e.e.e said:
Oh sorry then, I agree with what you've just said and I think I misunderstood one of your posts, or maybe I was just too stoned
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Oh sorry then, I agree with what you've just said and I think I misunderstood one of your posts, or maybe I was just too stoned
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cedarbreed
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Mariner said:
Thank you for reminding me you bastard ! 
I get stoned with medication these days, been given cool pills for the aches in my chest. They get you high.
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Don Corleone
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you guys talk about neurotransmitters, impulse and all that...ok to all of that. we could say the person is in such a fucked up state of mind that she cant think of anything else but quitting life. cool.
now, then what if a MURDERER uses the same kind of logic and justification? what can we say about that?
my point is: i know none of you are saying suicide is cool, but you guys are trying to put yourself in the person's shoes and show some empathy. thats great, too.
but there is way anybody is convincing me that suicide is NOT selfish. nobody could have done that on this thread so far either.
now, then what if a MURDERER uses the same kind of logic and justification? what can we say about that?
my point is: i know none of you are saying suicide is cool, but you guys are trying to put yourself in the person's shoes and show some empathy. thats great, too.
but there is way anybody is convincing me that suicide is NOT selfish. nobody could have done that on this thread so far either.
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Don Corleone said:
Well look, when NO ONE cares about you ( and don't tell me this happens to no one ), is it still selfish ? Ok you do it to ease you own pain but you hurt fucking no one by doing it right ? So it isn't selfish. ANd shit, men are selfish, face it. All that we do is selfish. Aren't we all searching for our own happiness after all ?
Hey I reckon making a child is way more selfish than killing yourself.
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the murderer thing was really bad comparison.. you mix things, don!
lets see them crazies:
1. mood disorders are illnesses JUST LIKE any other e.g. a flue. Its NOT a philosophic or ethic question that you can judge and that, its a Fact. Period.
2.
insanity and psychosys and other mental disorders are also sick, but there are major fucking differences, like a difference between cancer, flue and a broken bone!!!!! They need different caring.
An average depressed or anxious or agoraphobic person can usually work, live, post forums and be a good part of society. Its a sickness but its NOT insanity, it doesnt mean he cant make decisions and that. Its like getting a cold. No fuckin idiot will blame you and send you in prison because of caughing, right?
But there are different mental shit and serious phases of these, when they need to be treaten in hospital.
And in some cases they must be locked away.
and the murderes:
1.
many of them are Totally Sane, do it for money, fame, anger, whatever, nothing sick thought. These are treated as normal criminals and go 2 prison.
2.
some of them are sick. The court should normally investigate on if a murderer was sane or not, but anyway, sometimes they go to prison. Or hospital like. Either way they must be locked away - but not mainly because they are Sinners!!! - Only Because they are Dangerous.
The question is: how can the society let a very sick child to grow up in years of illness and suffering and let him reach a point when he kills someone? How can't we notice ppls problems if they are close to us, WHY CANT WE HELP?
Because: SELFISHNESS, IGNORANCE, EXCLUSION, STUPIDITY, FEAR.
And believe me, even if the whole 6billion crowd is doing what I just listed, these are much more serious mental handicaps than what a poor guy like this has:
lets see them crazies:
1.
mood disorders are illnesses JUST LIKE any other e.g. a flue. Its NOT a philosophic or ethic question that you can judge and that, its a Fact. Period.2.
An average depressed or anxious or agoraphobic person can usually work, live, post forums and be a good part of society. Its a sickness but its NOT insanity, it doesnt mean he cant make decisions and that. Its like getting a cold. No fuckin idiot will blame you and send you in prison because of caughing, right?
But there are different mental shit and serious phases of these, when they need to be treaten in hospital.
and the murderes:
1.
2.
The question is: how can the society let a very sick child to grow up in years of illness and suffering and let him reach a point when he kills someone? How can't we notice ppls problems if they are close to us, WHY CANT WE HELP?
Because: SELFISHNESS, IGNORANCE, EXCLUSION, STUPIDITY, FEAR.
And believe me, even if the whole 6billion crowd is doing what I just listed, these are much more serious mental handicaps than what a poor guy like this has:
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