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The Ozzman
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Vegard Pompey
ALLY TO GOOD, NIGHTMARE TO YOU
Dune should be bingeread outside in a sunchair on a sweltering summer's day.
The Ozzman
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FEZZILLA
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I half way through The Story of the Matthew Bible by Ruth Magnusson David.
This is one of those real refreshing reads because I am friends with author and we can discuss all this while reading. I've learn a great deal about Bible translations through the years but this book is a major breakthrough. I really wish she had included all the things we have discussed as well! I have recently learned what I sought to learn for so many years and that's the big question as to which of the English translations of the Bible is the most reliable? Well there are many reliable translations but none compare to accuracy better than the 1537 Matthew-Tyndale Bible. Even its sister version, the 1539 Great Bible is really good. I have done lots of research on the side confirming these things I've read in the book and from talking to the author and all my lexicons agree with William Tyndale and his close friends who helped finish the Matthew's Bible: John Rogers and Myles Coverdale. The reason why John Rogers called it the Matthew's Bible, signed by Thomas Matthew, was to conceal William Tyndale's translation who's work was banned in England. The 1539 Great Bible is basically the same thing as the Matthew's Bible and King Henry VIII didn't even notice Tyndale's work in it. So with all the things I have learned from this so far, I am convinced that the Matthew's Bible is the overall best English translation of the Bible ever done. Such a shame Tyndale was executed for translating the Bible into English from its original languages. Had they left him alone he would have lived long enough to finish making necessary revisions to perfect it all the more and all we would have ever had to do is update the spelling and grammar. Fortunately Ruth has also updated Tyndale's New Testament, making it easy to read. So for the first time in centuries we have the Tyndale New Testament in a nice easy to read format called The October Testament.
This can also be found on Bible Gateway
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Phil.2&version=NMB
This is one of those real refreshing reads because I am friends with author and we can discuss all this while reading. I've learn a great deal about Bible translations through the years but this book is a major breakthrough. I really wish she had included all the things we have discussed as well! I have recently learned what I sought to learn for so many years and that's the big question as to which of the English translations of the Bible is the most reliable? Well there are many reliable translations but none compare to accuracy better than the 1537 Matthew-Tyndale Bible. Even its sister version, the 1539 Great Bible is really good. I have done lots of research on the side confirming these things I've read in the book and from talking to the author and all my lexicons agree with William Tyndale and his close friends who helped finish the Matthew's Bible: John Rogers and Myles Coverdale. The reason why John Rogers called it the Matthew's Bible, signed by Thomas Matthew, was to conceal William Tyndale's translation who's work was banned in England. The 1539 Great Bible is basically the same thing as the Matthew's Bible and King Henry VIII didn't even notice Tyndale's work in it. So with all the things I have learned from this so far, I am convinced that the Matthew's Bible is the overall best English translation of the Bible ever done. Such a shame Tyndale was executed for translating the Bible into English from its original languages. Had they left him alone he would have lived long enough to finish making necessary revisions to perfect it all the more and all we would have ever had to do is update the spelling and grammar. Fortunately Ruth has also updated Tyndale's New Testament, making it easy to read. So for the first time in centuries we have the Tyndale New Testament in a nice easy to read format called The October Testament.
This can also be found on Bible Gateway
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Phil.2&version=NMB
Dak
mentat
Finished On Killing. Very solid book if you skip the intro and the last chapter or so. Lots of research and interview segments in the meat of the book and really shines a light on both much of western human inclinations in regard to killing, and the processes which help overcome the latent inhibition towards killing. The author obliques into the mud though at the outset and at the end with references to Freud and blaming arcade shooting games and Freddy/Jason movies with the crime in the early 90s prior to the writing of the book.
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The Ozzman
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FEZZILLA
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Yeah, here's a good handy history book on Nazi Germany: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William L. Shirer
Here are a couple of photos of the book,
Here are some links to the book on Amazon and Ebay,
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Third-Reich-History-Germany/dp/B00DQVUK14/ref=sr_1_7?
ie=UTF8&qid=1532621035&sr=8-7&keywords=The+Rise+and+Fall+of+the+Third+Reich+Book+by+William+L.+Shirer
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Th...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Th...+of+the+Third+Reich+Book+by+William+L.+Shirer
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Rise-a...+L.+Shirer&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313
This book is a fairly large volume containing a wealth of information about the rise of Nazi Germany which many young people of today have seemed to forgotten. One of the features of this book that really stand out in my mind was how the Nazis infiltrated the Christian Churches in Germany. That is a good lesson for today. There are many valuable insights about the rise of Nazi Germany in this book that may be worth your time in reading.
Generally, as a rule, history books are subject to political paradigms. This means that whenever society becomes corrupt and political divisions emerge over certain controversial issues, then books written during that time of strife and division are not generally encouraged. When it comes to books written about Nazi Germany it is better to read books written before the turn of the century. I won't even read a Dictionary written past 2007. So in times when politics is writing books and truth is being lost it is always recommended to read those books which were written before that paradigm of strife and political divisions. With other historical issues you might not want to read anything older than 300 years old. I collect documents and over the years have accumulated a museum worth of useful information. But each topic is sorted by whatever paradigm was corrupt, as many of our modern arguments which cause division can usually be refuted by very old books and sometimes books over thousand years old. Case and point: Does the Bible teach round or flat earth? This is an argument won before the 20th century and confirmed in the first four centuries of Christ. Likewise with Nazi Germany. We realize how accusation of modern times label everyone a Nazi who does not conform to radical socialism. So we open up the older books to find out what a Nazi is.
I'm not an expert on Nazi Germany. My main field in ancient literature. But the book I recommended antedates our current political divisions and is a very good read to be sure
The Ozzman
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That's not what I asked for but thanks. I want German history up through WWI/Weimar Republic. Nazi Germany shit is so oversaturated at this point I couldn't give two fucks about it.
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viewerfromnihil
Vein-Marbled Tower
Yeah, here's a good handy history book on Nazi Germany: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William L. Shirer
Here are a couple of photos of the book,
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Here are some links to the book on Amazon and Ebay,
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Third-Reich-History-Germany/dp/B00DQVUK14/ref=sr_1_7?
ie=UTF8&qid=1532621035&sr=8-7&keywords=The+Rise+and+Fall+of+the+Third+Reich+Book+by+William+L.+Shirer
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Th...preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Th...+of+the+Third+Reich+Book+by+William+L.+Shirer
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Rise-and-Fall-of-the-Third-Reich-by-William-L-Shirer-1960-Hardcover/232863370083?hash=item3637bd0b63:g:Ne4AAOSwTLpbL~qO&_sacat=0&_nkw=The+Rise+and+Fall+of+the+Third+Reich+Book+by+William+L.+Shirer&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313
This book is a fairly large volume containing a wealth of information about the rise of Nazi Germany which many young people of today have seemed to forgotten. One of the features of this book that really stand out in my mind was how the Nazis infiltrated the Christian Churches in Germany. That is a good lesson for today. There are many valuable insights about the rise of Nazi Germany in this book that may be worth your time in reading.
Generally, as a rule, history books are subject to political paradigms. This means that whenever society becomes corrupt and political divisions emerge over certain controversial issues, then books written during that time of strife and division are not generally encouraged. When it comes to books written about Nazi Germany it is better to read books written before the turn of the century. I won't even read a Dictionary written past 2007. So in times when politics is writing books and truth is being lost it is always recommended to read those books which were written before that paradigm of strife and political divisions. With other historical issues you might not want to read anything older than 300 years old. I collect documents and over the years have accumulated a museum worth of useful information. But each topic is sorted by whatever paradigm was corrupt, as many of our modern arguments which cause division can usually be refuted by very old books and sometimes books over thousand years old. Case and point: Does the Bible teach round or flat earth? This is an argument won before the 20th century and confirmed in the first four centuries of Christ. Likewise with Nazi Germany. We realize how accusation of modern times label everyone a Nazi who does not conform to radical socialism. So we open up the older books to find out what a Nazi is.
I'm not an expert on Nazi Germany. My main field in ancient literature. But the book I recommended antedates our current political divisions and is a very good read to be sure
I wouldn't listen to anything said here, whether regarding Shirer, understanding of historical perspective and the merit or lack thereof of its change overtime, or political paradigms, no offense @FEZZILLA .
The classic starting point for Imperial Germany is Hans Ulrich-Wehler's The German Empire. I don't have a PDF of it on hand, but it's probably easy enough to find. Something more recent which you might like is Isabel Hull's Absolute Destruction. It's a history of German military culture from the Franco-Prussian War to WWI. It's quite critical and I'm guessing you won't agree with all of it (I didn't), but it's an intriguing and well-written read. I have the PDF if you would like. It's quite a pretty soft cover too if you want to pick up a hard copy.
You're not going to find anything that covers them both well unless you learn German and read some of the untranslated multi-volume monsters written by zee Germans. On Weimar, Eric Weitz's Weimar Germany: Promise and Tragedy is a pretty good start if you want to get a taste of politics, society, and culture in one entertaining and easy to read package. I have the PDF if you want it. Detlev Peukert's Weimar Republic: Crisis of Classical Modernity is the classic go-to single volume history of Weimar (for good reason), but I wouldn't recommend it as a first read because it's a bit too technical and tedious at times. No PDF, but I know it's just a google search away. Hans Mommsen's Weimar would be decent too, but it's rather technical and heavy on politics, thus boring (in my view, though I obviously acknowledge it's place because I've read it).
In general, I will always recommend monographs for history books.They're more entertaining, more memorable, and it's much more likely you'll read it from front to back. The notion that the more general history books or older history books are somehow "purer" because a historian is arguing something new is bankrupt.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
Send it my way if you don't mind. Sounds like what I'm wanting. I did notice there isn't much in history for pre Weimar in English. Sucks. I only know a little bit of German so that doesn't help either.
viewerfromnihil
Vein-Marbled Tower
No doubt, and what is there is typically limited press and, practically (and financially) speaking, only available in university libraries. It's a shame though because Imperial Germany, or the Kaiserreich as it's often referred to in texts, is a very interesting period. There's a decent amount of literature on Weimar in English, but there are gaping holes there as well. There are only a couple of monographs on the conservative revolution--both of which are dated and one of which is like WWII dated-- in English, for example, while it's something really emphasized in the German language, and for good reason. The bright side there for me is is that it means there's still plenty of good meaty stuff to write in English for my dissertation.
FEZZILLA
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No offense taken. Though from my understanding Shirer was no slouch of an historians and his work is very highly rated. As I said before I'm not expert in Nazi Germany but neither am I ignorant about it. What I found particularly important about Shirer's book was how the Nazis infiltrated the German Churches. That part of the book is kinda frightening because the same thing is going on today with these liberal churches and how they are poisoning their congregations with their lies. German theologians were able to refute the lies but fascism doesn't recognize truth and uses force to push a change.
There are political paradigms in which corrupt minds seek to change everything from history, the Bible, to word definitions. When this kind of corruption is noticed, the paradigm this is taking place in is no longer relevant and only older books written before the time of corruption are trusted. Case and point, during the Obama regime there was an ongoing effort to corrupt history, the Bible, and even Dictionaries. A good example of a corruption is the NIV'11 which I often call the Obamacare Bible. Hitler also issue his own corruption of the Bible. Another example of corruption can be found much easier from online sources which are easy to corrupt. If you click on the link below..
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=h8398
You will noticed this is the online version of the Strong's Concordance. You will see a section here called Outline of Biblical Usage. This is a liberal interpolation which is not found in any lexicons. While the section on the word tebel isn't as radical as other words are, it does tend to impugn word definitions from the atheist viewpoint. When things like this happen, whether on or offline, its best to be very cautious as a single corruption can lead to a fascist regime. This is why history and education is so important to preserve. So during our current age of information wars, we want to make sure that whatever information we read is free from political corruption. Its just the matter of knowing good literature as opposed to bad literature.
The general rule for people getting into a subject about history is to follow the most reputable sources. I do not know enough about the source you listed as it might be very good but I don't know. And as I don't know, it is better to stick with books of strong repute. Shirer is considered a reputable source.
One of the things about Nazi Germany important to learn is how it rose to power? What was its true ideology? These things are important to know. I do know that Naziism is the occult which was forced into power. Infiltrating Christianity in attempts to destroy it has been an occult practice since the Gnostics. Ironically, Hitler and his Nazi buddies were all members of the Monist League (which is Gnosticism). Astrology is also a common practice in the occult which the Nazis embraced. So a history that can best pinpoint Nazi ideology is good to have around. So perhaps someone new to the study of Nazi Germany should scout for books before diving real deep into the subject. Having more than one good book is a sure way of walking away with a strong knowledge of Naziism.
Einherjar86
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The Ozzman
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Not a Book, but in the right thread where people have the intellect to appreciate it, like wot I do.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
Put Dune back on the shelf. I will not have the focus to read it right now.
Finished Rick Atkinson's book on Vietnam. Next up:
Finished Rick Atkinson's book on Vietnam. Next up:
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
Currently reading:
Roughly just over a chapter in thus far, the lore is a little dense but I'm slowly getting over the terminological barriers. The book is part of the Iron Hands series who are a group within Warhammer 40k who ritualistically slowly replace their biology with machinery, so there's a hyper-futuristic transbiological element which necessitates a pretty crazy use of technical language that takes some time to get used to.
Roughly just over a chapter in thus far, the lore is a little dense but I'm slowly getting over the terminological barriers. The book is part of the Iron Hands series who are a group within Warhammer 40k who ritualistically slowly replace their biology with machinery, so there's a hyper-futuristic transbiological element which necessitates a pretty crazy use of technical language that takes some time to get used to.
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
Saw this in the $1 section of my local thrift shop and picked it up. Seems interesting and not very long.
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