The Books/Reading Thread

For the sake of the middle ground, I wouldn't defend the qualities of Badiou and Lacan for a wide audience, specifically because:

a) Lacan is relevant for no one who isn't interested in the history of structuralist theory, and

b) I can't understand Badiou (I've tried).

I'm saddened that Adorno gets so much hate, especially when I find him immensely valuable despite the fact that I routinely perceive conservative elements in his writing. Nothing Adorno wrote was revolutionary or championing revolution. He wrote dour, pessimistic reflections on the intractability of modernity. Revolution wasn't the answer to anything, according to Adorno (and Horkheimer in Dialectic of Enlightenment), because it would merely result in further dehumanization at the hands of whoever comes to power. They were as critical of Hollywood and American pop culture as they were of German fascism, and saw Hollywood as the engine of populist beliefs in a liberal democratic society. What could be more relevant to our situation here in the twenty-first century?

So anyway, I won't argue about Lacan and Badiou (or even Zizek, although I do find a lot of his cultural commentary on point), but I'll always defend Adorno against what I see as perpetually unjustified attacks. His writings are the opposite of "empty."
 
For the sake of the middle ground, I wouldn't defend the qualities of Badiou and Lacan for a wide audience, specifically because:

a) Lacan is relevant for no one who isn't interested in the history of structuralist theory, and

Unfortunately, I keep bumping into ethics articles in psych who clearly have even less of an understanding of structuralism and it's history than I do, while citing it for support. Just read an article for a class this week on program ethics where they appeal to both structuralism and Habermas. I'm probably going to have to learn more just to deal with this misguided shoehorning in an academic manner when it comes time to do any publishing in this area.

So anyway, I won't argue about Lacan and Badiou (or even Zizek, although I do find a lot of his cultural commentary on point), but I'll always defend Adorno against what I see as perpetually unjustified attacks. His writings are the opposite of "empty."

For what it's worth, this was the opinion of Sam Freeman at NYBooks:
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/04/21/enemies-of-roger-scruton/

Scruton’s book is not the dispassionate examination and measured assessment of philosophical arguments typical of analytic philosophers. It is a polemical dissection and indictment of the perceived destructive aims and tactics of the left. Earlier chapters on Sartre and Foucault, and on members of the Frankfurt School, particularly Adorno, are the most engaging. Scruton clearly respects their philosophical acumen even if he finds their political views abhorrent. But his criticisms and reproaches of the radical left since the 1970s, especially for the “logorrhea” of the “nonsense machine” of Althusser, Lacan, Deleuze, Badiou, Žižek, and others, are impatient and contemptuous, even if imaginative and persuasive (for anyone already inclined to dismiss postmodernists’ tortuous prose).

I disagree that he was impatient regarding the first three listed, although definitely contemptuous. Definitely impatient with both Badiou and Zizek, but by the time he gets to them it's just to demonstrate that the same trend in Lacan and Deleuze isn't limited to them.
 
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I realize I've spent more time with these writers, but I find Deleuze (at least with Guattari) to be wildly entertaining. Passages from Anti-Oedipus are overflowing with dirty humor and biting distrust of ego psychology (i.e. Freud). I find it such a pleasure to read:

We are all Archie Bunker at the theater, shouting out before Oedipus: there's my kind of guy, there's my kind of guy! Everything, the myth of the earth, the tragedy of the despot, is taken up again as shadows projected on a stage. The great territorialities have fallen into ruin, but the structure proceeds with all the subjective and private reterritorializations. What a perverse operation psychoanalysis is, where this neoidealism, this rehabilitated cult of castration, this ideology of lack culminates: the anthropomorphic representation of sex!

There's something to be said for those who can have so much fun in their writing. Maybe I'm in the minority of people who find the Anti-Oedipus fun, but I don't find its prose tiresome or circuitous. I think every sentence drips with purpose.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority of people who find the Anti-Oedipus fun, but I don't find its prose tiresome or circuitous. I think every sentence drips with purpose.

Scruton really only zeroes in on the BwO re: Deleuze, and provided more sense-making of it than D&G did. Maybe Scruton is wrong in the analysis, but it was intelligible.
 
I'm not sure if Scruton mentions this, but the "body without organs" isn't D&G's original term; they take it from Antonin Artaud, who was an avant-garde dramatist. It's less a theoretical term for D&G than it is a poetic figure, and one that French readers at the time probably would have been familiar with. They credit Artaud in the A-O, but they don't really define the term--namely because it comes from a work of dramatic literature.
 
I'm not sure if Scruton mentions this, but the "body without organs" isn't D&G's original term; they take it from Antonin Artaud, who was an avant-garde dramatist. It's less a theoretical term for D&G than it is a poetic figure, and one that French readers at the time probably would have been familiar with. They credit Artaud in the A-O, but they don't really define the term--namely because it comes from a work of dramatic literature.

Well that/if they don't leaves room for Scruton to make of it what he wants, as well as to grant it "nonsense machine" status. You can have nonsense in poetry, not philosophy.
 
Well that/if they don't leaves room for Scruton to make of it what he wants, as well as to grant it "nonsense machine" status. You can have nonsense in poetry, not philosophy.

According to Wittgenstein, nonsense can be a powerful philosophical tool. Leo Arena and Cora Diamond have written really fascinating works about the role of nonsense in philosophy.
 
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Really interesting book on the new formalism in literary studies. Feels overdue, honestly.

(I realize that this probably interests no one else here :cool:)
 
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Elephant in the Brain is as great as I expected. On Human Nature wasn't quite what I expected; it's trying to salvage the idea of a human nature rather than providing a list of attributes. Was interesting but I'll probably need to re-read it at some point with more time to chew on it.
 
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This also applies to the movie thread. Just started this fucking doorstop, the second volume of Stephen Thrower's examination of the films of Jess Franco. Volume 1, Murderous Passions, was so exhaustively researched the production notes that preceded the reviews tended to read like mini-epic poems. This volume surpasses that within 30 pages. Absolutely essential.
 
apparently erikson is writing a series centred around karsa orlong, yespls

Maybe now I'll actually read Malazan...

in fact, I really have no idea when I'll be able to finish that beast. I'm probably giving up on GRRM too, only fantasy author worth seeing it through with at this point (for me, at least) is Bakker.

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Contemporary bestseller. Not sure what to call it/think of it yet, but I'm enjoying it.
 
Maybe now I'll actually read Malazan...

in fact, I really have no idea when I'll be able to finish that beast. I'm probably giving up on GRRM too, only fantasy author worth seeing it through with at this point (for me, at least) is Bakker.

finishing it isn't that important as they mostly satisfy as stand-alone stories, but i'd try to do the first five at least. i forget where you're up to, maybe you already have.