The -Core Thread

[SomeGuyDude]

Just going by the numbers, there have to be a fair amount of people on UM that have death/metalcore in their playlists, from the "acceptable" ones like JfaC's later albums to the ones no one will really admit to, so let's show some love to the oft-hated metal.

I'll start off with one that I will always have a soft spot for:

 

[Vimana]

 

[-CC-]

Although you are talking about death/metalcore, I find these songs to be appropriate to the thread title.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Absolutely! All the cores, even traditional hardcore. They get no love, but there's a lot of fun music there.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Good stuffs:






I'm pretty over deathcore/metalcore with a few exceptions.

 

[waif]

I kind of like the Mutiny Within debut. Pretty gay, but they seem to be metalheads at heart and the vocalist is very good, so I dig it.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Good call, WAIF. A lot of bands are damn talented, and do have a love for Teh Metalz, but they're in a subgenre that people just don't like.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Some new Structures stuff I heard didn't sound too bad.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

I like Glasses a lot lately. Hardcore band from Germany, I think.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

 

[General Zaroff]

I'm into Soul Search, Hundredth, Have Heart, Converge, and Defeater. Gonna try out Refused.

Looking for more stuff like Soul Search. They're more on the heavy and in your face side of hardcore, but not metal influenced shit or d-beat/crust.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Where does a band like Trap Them or All Pigs Must Die fall on that spectrum, to you?

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

D-beat and crust, when I first heard them, sounded like genres that I should really like, but I got bored with them quickly. While it sounds pretty gay, I really like the Murican style of "heavy" hardcore like later day Agnostic Front and earlier Hatebreed. The one thing I don't like about those bands, however, are the cheesy lyrics.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Eh, most metal bands have shitty lyrics. Look at 95% of death metal, ESPECIALLY in the slam/BDM realm. They can't all be Pig Destroyer, y'know?

I gotta be honest, I still don't get exactly what's going on with shit like d-beat and crust and those other odd subgenres. All I know is I like APMD, Trap Them, and a couple others.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

I get a good laugh out of gore lyrics, but "PERSEVERE AND TRIUMPH OVER ADVERSITY AND BE HONORABLE AND SHIT" is just sorta cringe-worthy. I've come to realize that for the most part melodeath and metalcore are basically identical genres. Both start with Slaughter Of The Soul and Heartwork worship. Metalcore simply adds the occasional breakdown and emo vocal, while melo-death goes the Europe/Sonata Arctica styled pop metal meets melodic death metal route. Otherwise the song structures are practically the same.

 

[Spiderchrist]

yes

 

[Spiderchrist]

As far as Hardcore goes...

 

[SomeGuyDude]

I've always been torn with Despised Icon. Talented, and lots of great death-y elements, but that wigger thing has ALWAYS bothered me.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

As far as Hardcore goes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG5xHpJPSNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU4YSbdr-fA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQM00K24qG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7NE3Ia6IZg

That's my favorite era of hardcore. I'd even add in some very early Suicidal Tendancies, Husker Du's Land Speed Record, and Dead Kennedys.

I've always been torn with Despised Icon. Talented, and lots of great death-y elements, but that wigger thing has ALWAYS bothered me.

This.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

I get a good laugh out of gore lyrics, but "PERSEVERE AND TRIUMPH OVER ADVERSITY AND BE HONORABLE AND SHIT" is just sorta cringe-worthy. I've come to realize that for the most part melodeath and metalcore are basically identical genres. Both start with Slaughter Of The Soul and Heartwork worship. Metalcore simply adds the occasional breakdown and emo vocal, while melo-death goes the Europe/Sonata Arctica styled pop metal meets melodic death metal route. Otherwise the song structures are practically the same.

I think the difference is that gore lyrics are kinda tongue in cheek. Everyone knows that Cannibal Corpse is intentionally over the top, and when bands like Guttural Secrete yammer about flesh ripping and raping destroyed assholes, we know they aren't actually suggesting anyone go out and do it.

The Hatebreed type lyrics, though, those are dead serious. People actually mean that.