Not much in the mood for arguing about this, so you can respond to this post once i'm done and "win", but i think perhaps you have no place saying something like this considering you spend most of your time here missing the point on music other people enjoy and you are incapable of enjoying. Enjoying music>not enjoying music, and you certainly don't enjoy a lot of the music (ie enslaved or drone) other people do. Besides that, you've assumed a few too many things here. First, i heard Burzum long before i heard any dark ambient (my first DA experience was Raison d'Etre about 4 years ago, burzum's last album i first heard about 6 years ago). I like darkwave too, i like dead can dance, i like arcana, etc. Whatever style later burzum can be put into, i enjoy it. I just don't think burzum is a high quality version of this style.