The Eye, Ringu 2, Dark Water, and Ju-On: The Grudge

[JayKeeley]

First of all, welcome to the RC forum! You're also the keyboard player for Wolverine? That's cool. You have some fans around these parts and we just published a glowing review for your latest album.

You know that Ringu 2 isn't the original sequel, right? The original is called Rasen (or Ring 2: Spiral), and is better in my opinion. Great ending!

Actually, I had read this, but I heard it wasn't quite as good, so I've not got round to seeing it yet....

There is also talk of doing a prequel (that of course will have nothing to do with the Japanese Ringu 0: Birthday ).

I haven't seen Ring 0: Birthday yet. Should I get it? I really don't care about making a collection complete if the film is shite. Case in Point: Battle Royale II. As much as I loved part I, I don't need part II. That's why I was wary about Ring 0 just because Hideo Nakata didn't direct it.

It's really hard to keep track of all the Ringu movies out there . Ringu itself is actually a remake of Ringu: Kanzen-ban from 1995. There is also a Korean remake called The Ring Virus (or just simply Ring). Plus there's even a TV-series called Ringu: Saishuu-shô (Ring: The Final Chapter)... Phew!

Now, according to HKflix.com, the Korean remake (The Ring Virus) is supposed to be the BEST version yet! Again, I need to read a bit more about it before I invest some $$ into buying it.

Dark Water is also, like Ringu, based on a novel by Kôji Suzuki. I think they made a great decision in casting Jennifer Connelly as the lead in the remake.

I've got to disagree here, just because I can't stand Jennifer Connelly. And the real success of the original Dark Water was that child actor (the daughter). She was phenomenal, and I'm not sure if that performance can ever be surpassed. Dark Water HAS to be seen from the perspective of the child, otherwise the whole film will pass you by. It's so traumatic, my wife refuses to watch it, heh.

The Eye is a Hong Kong film. It has one of my all time favourite horror scenes in it. The elevator scene. Those who have seen it will know what I'm talking about . It's unforgettable (unless you're drunk of course ).

What is it with elevators and these Asians? The Eye, Dark Water, Ju-On...they all use the elevator to great effect. By the way, Tom Cruise will produce the remake of The Eye. That's a warning sign right there.

What version of Ju-On have you seen, the Japanese TV-version or the Japanese theatrical one? I've seen both TV-films (Ju-On and Ju-On 2) plus the theatrical version of the first one, and I have to say that the TV-versions are WAY scarrier than the theatrical version.

I have only seen the Theatrical version, but it sounds like I need to get the TV version. I did read that it was better before I got the full-length, but having been in the US too long, I thought that anything that's "made for TV" is automatically garbage. My mistake obviously.

A good thing about the upcoming Hollywood remake is that it's being remade by the original director, Takashi Shimitzu, in Japan. On the negative side it stars Sarah Michelle Gellar.

You see, that's exactly my complaint with remakes. There is something quite 'untouched' about seeing the originals first because the actors will be unknown to a western audience. I mean, whenever I see Sarah Michelle Gellar in anything, all I can think of is Buffy. She's completely typecast.

 

[Unsumed]

First of all, welcome to the RC forum! You're also the keyboard player for Wolverine? That's cool. You have some fans around these parts and we just published a glowing review for your latest album.

Thanks for the welcome! I read notman's awesome review, and I've thanked him for it .

Actually, I had read this, but I heard it wasn't quite as good, so I've not got round to seeing it yet....

Well, Rasen isn't as spaced out as Ringu 2, but it follows the book and has the same pace as Ringu. I enjoy both films, but I think Rasen has a better ending to the story and it is as the author intended it to be. I felt so sorry for the main character at the end of the film... I won't say anything more in case you decide to see it .

I haven't seen Ring 0: Birthday yet. Should I get it? I really don't care about making a collection complete if the film is shite. Case in Point: Battle Royale II. As much as I loved part I, I don't need part II. That's why I was wary about Ring 0 just because Hideo Nakata didn't direct it.

Ringu 0 is mostly recommended if you want the complete story of Sadaka. I'm really into this story and want to get as complete a picture as I can of the history of her. Did you know that in the first version, Ringu: Kanzen ban, Sadaka's father tries to rape her and discovers that she's a hermaphrodite? That's why she's thrown in the well in that very hard to find version... Ringu 0 has a very different version of how she ended up there and I find it fascinating. The movie as a whole is ok, nothing more, and not near as scary as any of the others.

I agree with you on Battle Royale II. It has its moments, but I don't need it.

Now, according to HKflix.com, the Korean remake (The Ring Virus) is supposed to be the BEST version yet! Again, I need to read a bit more about it before I invest some $$ into buying it.

I have to disagree with HKflix on this one . Let me put it like this: Hollywood's The Ring is more a remake of The Ring Virus than of Ringu. In fact some scenes are directly copied in the Hollywood one. I didn't get creeped out at all watching it and the "cursed" video in the film is really bad. Not at all as scary as the one in Ringu. But it has a cool twist at the end of the so called "cursed" tape that made me laugh and think at the same time (yes, it is possible, trust me ). Again, I won't say what the twist is in case anyone reading this will see the movie later on. I wouldn't recommend buying it unless you get it cheap. I bought it for $8 on eBay and that's about as much as I was willing to spend on it.

I've got to disagree here, just because I can't stand Jennifer Connelly. And the real success of the original Dark Water was that child actor (the daughter). She was phenomenal, and I'm not sure if that performance can ever be surpassed. Dark Water HAS to be seen from the perspective of the child, otherwise the whole film will pass you by. It's so traumatic, my wife refuses to watch it, heh.

Hehe... Ok . Well, I have always liked Jennifer, ever since I saw her in Labyrinth . I agree with you about the child. Imagine being that kid at the end of the film... . By the way, if you want to see some GREAT child acting in an Asian film, see Phone! The film itself wasn't much to look at, but the little girl... All I can say is WOW! I've seldom seen anyone act so evil, and the kid looks to be 5-6 years old .

What is it with elevators and these Asians? The Eye, Dark Water, Ju-On...they all use the elevator to great effect. By the way, Tom Cruise will produce the remake of The Eye. That's a warning sign right there.

Hehe... I know! Me and a friend were discussing Asian elevator scenes the other day .

Tom Cruise? Yipes!

I just saw the trailer for The Eye 2. It looked... eeeh... Creepy . http://www.eye2themovie.com

I have only seen the Theatrical version, but it sounds like I need to get the TV version. I did read that it was better before I got the full-length, but having been in the US too long, I thought that anything that's "made for TV" is automatically garbage. My mistake obviously.

I got the full-lenght first, thinking it was the TV version . I enjoyed the storyline, once I got it , a lot more in the TV versions and the horrorscenes were slower and much more effectful.

Speaking of TV and foreign films: I just saw the first episode of Stephen King's Kingdom Hospital and couldn't help comparing it to the original Danish Version called Riget or simply The Kingdom. And I must say that the Danish version is so much scarrier it's not even comparable to King's adaptation. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes their horror psychological and understated. Kind of like most Asian horror films .

You see, that's exactly my complaint with remakes. There is something quite 'untouched' about seeing the originals first because the actors will be unknown to a western audience. I mean, whenever I see Sarah Michelle Gellar in anything, all I can think of is Buffy. She's completely typecast.

Exactly. And seeing Gellar as a nurse? Hmmm...
Sam Raimi as executive producer and Rob Tapert as producer and both Kayako and Toshio played by the original actors has my hopes up for this remake though.

 

[JayKeeley]

That's cool info, thanks Unsumed.

*waits for Russell to join this thread*

 

[dill_the_devil]

My goat, I thought I was the only Asian cinema fan boy on here...

Although sadly all I've bought so far are Battle Royale, Ringu, The Story Of Riki, and Violent Cop. I've got something of a Takeshi Kitano fanboy thing going on - any film starring or directed by him, I've gotta have it. I'm looking for Audition myself, as well as an uncut version of Ichi The Killer, and I'm in the process of downloading another Takeshi Miike film, Full Metal Yakuza.

 

[Unsumed]

I've been very much into Asian films lately. It's a nice break when you get sick of the Hollywood formula .

Right now I'm trying to get as much Miike as I can. He has such a twisted and wonderful way of telling his stories. It's a totally new way of seeing reality . So far I have Audition, Visitor Q (probably the most twisted film I've seen ), Ichi The Killer and Gozu. Next up is The Happiness Of The Katakuris that I just HAVE to see. I sounds so weird...

I had Full Metal Yakuza, but the subs were out of synch and EXTREMELY small, so I got rid of it.

 

[JayKeeley]

I have to admit, as much as I like films such as Battle Royale, Ichi the Killer, and Violent Cop etc, I think it's the Asian horror genre that's being taken to the next level. The cool thing is that, as well as introducing new rules, they're also paying homage to the 70's when the American film industry was at it's peak.

Ringu, for example, may have been adapted from a book, but have you ever seen The Changleing starring George C Scott? Fantastic film, where the use of the water well in Ringu is lifted directly from that movie/book. Also, Junk (the best Zombie film of the last 10 years (fuck 28 Days Later stealing the concept)) is an obvious homage to Romero, and it's done well, with respect in keeping the ideology intact.

At the end of the day though, I just happen to be a horror fanatic.

 

[Unsumed]

At the end of the day though, I just happen to be a horror fanatic.

Welcome to the club .

I still haven't seen neither The Changeling nor Junk . But as far as American horror goes Romero is my absolute favourite. He has his own way of filming, never keeping the same camera angle for more than 10 seconds at a time it seems .

As you said, when looking for original horror these days, you often have to look to other countries with different traditions in storytelling.

 

[JayKeeley]

I still haven't seen neither The Changeling nor Junk .

Highest recommendations for both.

The Changeling is from an era when American horror cinema was at it's finest, alongside: Exorcist, Entity, Omen, Texas Chainsaw, The Shining, etc. The main difference, however, is that it stars George C Scott (RIP) who I consider to be one of the finest actors of our time. I mean, Patton anyone?? It's also not just a usual run of the mill horror - yes, it's a ghost story, but the plot isn't based around the hauntings themselves (e.g. Poltergeist or Amytiville), but instead it's based on who the ghost(s) is and the history behind its death. It therefore becomes a mystery thriller, and happens to use a 'water well' to dramatic effect a la Ringu...I won't say too much more.

Junk is a guilty pleasure for me. I've talked about it often around these parts. It's pure Romero worship, but throw in a splash of Reanimator, Fulci's Zombie, and Resevoir Dogs, and you get the picture. It's certainly no Day of the Dead or The Beyond, but then, what is?

 

[Unsumed]

I love all the movies you mentioned there, except Chainsaw Massacre. I never really saw the beauty of it, and the less said about the remake, the better .

I have Changeling on my "to see" list, and will do so shortly (but I'll probably see Junk before ). Speaking of George C Scott, I loved when they paired him up with Brad Dourif in Exorcist III. Dourif is one of my favourites and he plays horror so damn well . And now he's going straight from Return Of The King to Seed Of Chucky .

 

[JayKeeley]

I love all the movies you mentioned there, except Chainsaw Massacre. I never really saw the beauty of it, and the less said about the remake, the better .

Well, there is nothing beautiful about it. It's a gritty, dirty film. You can almost smell the rotting meat and feel the hovering flies about you. Leatherface was fucked up because he wasn't a 'demon' - he was a real guy, a complete freak. If horror is kept 'real' it makes it more horrific - see Seven or Silence of the Lambs as a good example of something scary without resorting to horror. I found the original TCM to be very claustrophobic, especially the first time I saw it at age 13. I don't care about the remake...

I have Changeling on my "to see" list, and will do so shortly (but I'll probably see Junk before ). Speaking of George C Scott, I loved when they paired him up with Brad Dourif in Exorcist III. Dourif is one of my favourites and he plays horror so damn well . And now he's going straight from Return Of The King to Seed Of Chucky .

Exorcist III is such an underrated movie, and yeah, partnering up Scott and Dourif was genius. And the fact that they brought the original Father Karras back for certain segments was perfect. Great, great film. I wish they went further and bastardized the church even further, just to make it even more blasphemic.

I should listen to some Wolverine one day shouldn't I?

 

[Unsumed]

Well, there is nothing beautiful about it. It's a gritty, dirty film. You can almost smell the rotting meat and feel the hovering flies about you. Leatherface was fucked up because he wasn't a 'demon' - he was a real guy, a complete freak. If horror is kept 'real' it makes it more horrific - see Seven or Silence of the Lambs as a good example of something scary without resorting to horror. I found the original TCM to be very claustrophobic, especially the first time I saw it at age 13. I don't care about the remake...

I'm all for realism in horror. And dirt and grit. Realism, dirt, grit and serial killers . Maybe it's just that I don't like that "hillbilly feel" that I think Chainsaw has. I never have. Another great example I think is Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer. Man, I love that film!

Exorcist III is such an underrated movie, and yeah, partnering up Scott and Dourif was genius. And the fact that they brought the original Father Karras back for certain segments was perfect. Great, great film. I wish they went further and bastardized the church even further, just to make it even more blasphemic.

It's VERY underrated! One of my "scariest scenes seen" is in it. It involves some "scissors" . And Jason Miller back as Father Karras was a stroke of genius. I hardly noticed it the first time they changed from one to the other .

Too bad they scrapped the first version by Paul Schrader of Exorcist: The Beginning, which was, from what I've heard, a psychological story with more mood than gore. In stead they brought in Renny "I f**k everything up" Harlin to do a gory thriller... Oh, well. Can't win 'em all .

I should listen to some Wolverine one day shouldn't I?

Yes. Yes you should . And blame me if you hear any influences from Italian horror films .

 

[JayKeeley]

I'm all for realism in horror. And dirt and grit. Realism, dirt, grit and serial killers . Maybe it's just that I don't like that "hillbilly feel" that I think Chainsaw has. I never have. Another great example I think is Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer. Man, I love that film!

You know, I've never seen Henry. And speaking of hillbilly flicks, I've never seen The Hills Have Eyes either. Deliverance and Southern Comfort were enough for me to stop watching films about the American bible belt. I don't know how even today, people go camping in the middle-of-nowhere Alabama or Louisiana.

It's VERY underrated! One of my "scariest scenes seen" is in it. It involves some "scissors" . And Jason Miller back as Father Karras was a stroke of genius. I hardly noticed it the first time they changed from one to the other .

The scissors scene is outstanding. I have goosebumps just thinking about it. The first time I saw that, my jaw hit the floor. That will go down in history as a "classic moment".

Too bad they scrapped the first version by Paul Schrader of Exorcist: The Beginning, which was, from what I've heard, a psychological story with more mood than gore. In stead they brought in Renny "I f**k everything up" Harlin to do a gory thriller... Oh, well. Can't win 'em all .

Are you serious? Renny Harlin from Cliffhanger and Driven? It's like he can only work with either Stallone or his washed up has-been wife Geena Davis, so of course, he'll screw it up. He couldn't even get the sharks to look real in Deep Blue! (Although I admit, that was a cool popcorn flick).

Yes. Yes you should . And blame me if you hear any influences from Italian horror films .

If you tell me you like what Goblin did for Dario Argento then I'll buy both your albums tonight.

 

[Unsumed]

You know, I've never seen Henry. And speaking of hillbilly flicks, I've never seen The Hills Have Eyes either. Deliverance and Southern Comfort were enough for me to stop watching films about the American bible belt. I don't know how even today, people go camping in the middle-of-nowhere Alabama or Louisiana.

Hills is a classic, but far from a favourite. But if you like Chainsaw you might enjoy it.

The scissors scene is outstanding. I have goosebumps just thinking about it. The first time I saw that, my jaw hit the floor. That will go down in history as a "classic moment".

I sure hope so! But over here people who have seen Exorcist III are few and far apart, so not many people know of its greatness. I always try to force people to watch it when it's on TV. Always late at night of course, on some cheesy channel .

Are you serious? Renny Harlin from Cliffhanger and Driven? It's like he can only work with either Stallone or his washed up has-been wife Geena Davis, so of course, he'll screw it up. He couldn't even get the sharks to look real in Deep Blue! (Although I admit, that was a cool popcorn flick).

Deep Blue is probably the only movie I've every even concidered walking out of the theatre on . I thought it was truly horrible, and Stellan Skarsgard did his worst non-Swedish part so far (we'll see how he does in the new Exorcist ).

If you tell me you like what Goblin did for Dario Argento then I'll buy both your albums tonight.

Are you kidding? I adore Claudio Simonetti and what he did with Goblin for Argento . But I think the best soundtrack for an Argento film (not having heard the new one for The Cardplayer) is the one for Inferno written by Keith Emerson. I can't get enough of that main theme !

 

[JayKeeley]

Deep Blue is probably the only movie I've every even concidered walking out of the theatre on . I thought it was truly horrible, and Stellan Skarsgard did his worst non-Swedish part so far (we'll see how he does in the new Exorcist ).

Hoh, you thought it was that bad? OK I admit it was a trashy film, but the bit when Samuel Jackson gets eaten was a shock. I shat my pants when that shark jumped out the water and swallowed him whole! I'm not sure which Stellan Skarsgard film is his best (English speaking). I'm pretty sure that I'm the only person who thought Good Will Hunting was overrated.

Are you kidding? I adore Claudio Simonetti and what he did with Goblin for Argento . But I think the best soundtrack for an Argento film (not having heard the new one for The Cardplayer) is the one for Inferno written by Keith Emerson. I can't get enough of that main theme !

Remind me, which one is Inferno? Is that the 'sequel' to Suspiria, where the girl discovers the coven *between* the floors in the building? I saw it yeeeears ago, and I should just get it on DVD one day. Not a fan of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, but you've piqued my interest nonetheless, heh.

I've been told many a time to get a WOLVERINE album. Which one should I start with? Along with our review, npearce specifically recommended Cold Light of Day to me. Agree?

 

[Unsumed]

Hoh, you thought it was that bad? OK I admit it was a trashy film, but the bit when Samuel Jackson gets eaten was a shock. I shat my pants when that shark jumped out the water and swallowed him whole! I'm not sure which Stellan Skarsgard film is his best (English speaking). I'm pretty sure that I'm the only person who thought Good Will Hunting was overrated.

I REALLY didn't like Deep Blue See. If they had called it "Jaws 5" I probably would have let it slip by as a lousy follow-up

Still haven't seen Good Will. Not sure that I want to either .

Remind me, which one is Inferno? Is that the 'sequel' to Suspiria, where the girl discovers the coven *between* the floors in the building? I saw it yeeeears ago, and I should just get it on DVD one day. Not a fan of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, but you've piqued my interest nonetheless, heh.

Bingo! That's the one. "Before Tenabrae beyond Suspiria there's... INFERNO! Terror that's hotter than hell!"

I've been told many a time to get a WOLVERINE album. Which one should I start with? Along with our review, npearce specifically recommended Cold Light of Day to me. Agree?

I don't know what kind of musical preferences you have, but if they're anything like your filmtaste then I would suggest Cold Light . It's got a very claustrophobic feel to it. There's not a lot of metal on it. Probably the least "Progmetally" of our albums.

The Window Purpose is a lot more "Progmetally" with bigger sounding production. Progmetal fans (like Dream Theater, Pain Of Salvation) tend to like this one better I find.

 

[JayKeeley]

Bingo! That's the one. "Before Tenabrae beyond Suspiria there's... INFERNO! Terror that's hotter than hell!"

Heh, yep that's the one then. Although most people think of Suspiria to be his masterpiece, I really liked Opera too. And I also liked Deep Red. Although, having said all that, Suspiria is probably the most cohesive in that it flows the best. The other two had some great segments, but always felt disjointed. Typical though for Italian directors of that time to 'chop' their films together - just look at Lucio Fulci and City of the Living Dead. That's like 7 films in one, heh.

I don't know what kind of musical preferences you have, but if they're anything like your filmtaste then I would suggest Cold Light . It's got a very claustrophobic feel to it. There's not a lot of metal on it. Probably the least "Progmetally" of our albums.

"Least Progmetally"? Done! Bought from the Earache website. This was the one that caught my attention anyway, based on how it was described to me. If you throw words like 'Anathema' at me, for example, then I'm normally game.

 

[Unsumed]

Heh, yep that's the one then. Although most people think of Suspiria to be his masterpiece, I really liked Opera too. And I also liked Deep Red. Although, having said all that, Suspiria is probably the most cohesive in that it flows the best. The other two had some great segments, but always felt disjointed. Typical though for Italian directors of that time to 'chop' their films together - just look at Lucio Fulci and City of the Living Dead. That's like 7 films in one, heh.

There are few directors that come near to Argento's talent when it comes to the visual aspect of filmmaking, but he doesn't know how to write dialog I think. The fact that he hates actors isn't a great help either . As he once said himself, he thinks the actors are the only thing standing between him and his vision. Now there's a happy thought to have in your head when you go to work .

I read an interview with Fulci where he said that there originally was a different ending to City Of The Living Dead, but the producers thought it was to "easy" and predictable, so they shot that freaked out ending that is there today in stead . He didn't give any explanation to the new ending though .

"Least Progmetally"? Done! Bought from the Earache website. This was the one that caught my attention anyway, based on how it was described to me. If you throw words like 'Anathema' at me, for example, then I'm normally game.

Hehe... Well, Anathema has been mentioned a lot in the reviews, so who knows ? You might like it.

 

[JayKeeley]

There are few directors that come near to Argento's talent when it comes to the visual aspect of filmmaking, but he doesn't know how to write dialog I think. The fact that he hates actors isn't a great help either . As he once said himself, he thinks the actors are the only thing standing between him and his vision. Now there's a happy thought to have in your head when you go to work .

Heheh, I never knew that about Argento. What a bastard! Did you know that Suspiria is now a part of some college film study curriculums? By the way, do you think he was on acid when he came up with those colour schemes?

I read an interview with Fulci where he said that there originally was a different ending to City Of The Living Dead, but the producers thought it was to "easy" and predictable, so they shot that freaked out ending that is there today in stead . He didn't give any explanation to the new ending though .

It's my least favourite of his so-called 'dead' trilogy, although the intestinal vomit scene, and head-drill scene, both still makes me squirm...which is a good thing! I much prefered, however, The Beyond and Zombie (aka Zombie Flesh Eaters or Zombi 2). In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that Zombie is my favourite Fulci movie. There are parts of House by the Cemetary that are cool too, but that kid, "Bob", just annoys me. Now there's an example of dubbing gone bad - I think it's a grown woman who dubbed the kid's voice.

Hehe... Well, Anathema has been mentioned a lot in the reviews, so who knows ? You might like it.

The album has received glowing reports, so I can't wait to hear it. I'll let you know what I think. Hey, perhaps you can grant me an interview for Royal Carnage and we can crack open a few beers and talk about horror films from around the world all day long!

 

[Unsumed]

Heheh, I never knew that about Argento. What a bastard! Did you know that Suspiria is now a part of some college film study curriculums? By the way, do you think he was on acid when he came up with those colour schemes?

Yeah, I heard something about that a while ago. It's a fantastic looking film. Do you know the name of the negatives they used? The one that films in four different colour layers.

Yes, I think he was on something at the time he came up with The Three Mothers trilogy . I hope he does the third one soon! But I'm guessing he won't...

It's my least favourite of his so-called 'dead' trilogy, although the intestinal vomit scene, and head-drill scene, both still makes me squirm...which is a good thing! I much prefered, however, The Beyond and Zombie (aka Zombie Flesh Eaters or Zombi 2). In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that Zombie is my favourite Fulci movie. There are parts of House by the Cemetary that are cool too, but that kid, "Bob", just annoys me. Now there's an example of dubbing gone bad - I think it's a grown woman who dubbed the kid's voice.

I think I'll have to say that The Beyond is my favourite (big surprise, huh ?). Or maybe even The Black Cat. But Zombie is up there in the top to. I just love that Jaws vs. Zombie scene

"Bob" has forever ruined House By The Cemetary! He is by far the most annoying thing that has ever filled my TV screen .

The album has received glowing reports, so I can't wait to hear it. I'll let you know what I think. Hey, perhaps you can grant me an interview for Royal Carnage and we can crack open a few beers and talk about horror films from around the world all day long!

Sounds like a plan to me

 

[Russell]

Haha, nice thread If it wasn't so late I'd write a proper reply, but it's midnight here and I've been writing a report for ten hours solid! That said, my recent purchases which I have yet to see include the Spiral (actually I got this one free! ), Dolls (Takeshi Kitano's latest), Happiness of The Katikuris, and DOA2 (both Miike). Plus the new release of Castle in the Sky (Miyazaki). SOme of which I paln to watch tomorrow!

Just got the Ichi the killer Anime as well, not great, but interesting nevertheless. An interesting addition to the film, kind of. Also recently got the beyond, and last house of the left, both of which seem cut to fuck.. Still haven't seen the Eye, which is annoying me as I really like the Pang brothers' "Bangkok Dangerous". Gozu still hasn't been released here, which is an arse as it was a damn funny film..

I've region three versions of both Happiness and DOA2 ging for roughly £5 each, BTW if anyone's interested. I can't vouch for the subtitles, as I haven't watched them... And I final piece of advice, for the love of god, don't watch sure death. A two hour film that felt like it went on for six..