On the other hand... Total War series is fantastic. Thank you massive scale battles
Anyone here ever playing Galactic Civilizations 2? I don't know if there are any turn based strategy fans here but GC2 is probably the best of its kind. Even better than the Civilization series and that's saying a lot.
Galactic Civilizations 2 lets you govern a massive intergalactic empire on a HUGE map with many unique and interesting species to contend with either diplomatically or by war, or maybe you just want to be traders and build a rich, influential empire. You can win many ways, depending on your playstyle, and also on how you can best contend with your opponents. Sometimes you try to win by being aggressive only to find you're outgunned, so you make friends with another species and turn them against your enemies to even the odds. The thing is even one game on a large map can take you a RETARDED amount of hours to conquer, and due to the extreme complexity, factors and large amount of decisions you must make each turn you can get fucking OWNED if you make too many bad decisions. It has a fairly steep learning curve, especially trying to effectively manage your economy while still expanding at a sufficient rate which is the most important yet difficult factor to balance, but it's so satisfying when you get a good game going. The largest map size ends up feeling less like a game, and more like just existing within the galaxy competing with your neighbours, but if you start on a small map with a couple other species you can finish in a few hours.
The nice thing is you can create your own race from scratch, and although you can base it on another species technology so you have a vanilla ship roster to choose from, you can design an infinite amount of ships yourself engineer style and deploy entire fleets of unique ships to lay waste to your opponents. And I don't mean just changing a couple guns around, I mean they give you building blocks and you can create any look or design you want from making a Star Destroyer, or make something that looks like Cthulhu's bastard love-child. Not to mention the game still manages to not take itself too seriously, most dialogue and interactions range from humorous to hilarious, especially the things your robotic assistant says when describing any research you complete.
It's the kind of game only certain people like but I figured I'd mention it (If I have not already here).