The great and all powerful religion thread!

[zabu of nΩd]

I'm a half-Jewish asshole.


...But I don't run Hollywood.

 

[Hatebreeder]

I'm a half-Jewish asshole.


...But I don't run Hollywood.

I like making generalizations sometimes.

Don't worry, you're still pure. Stay gold, Ponyboy!

 

[CaGeD iN]

so let me get this straight with moses... he crossed the 70 mile red sea and parted the waters and reached the other side before some guys on horses

40 years in the desert wandering... lets do the math
40years x 365 days x 5 hours walking each day x 3 mph = he went 219,000 miles? before getting to civilization?

 

[cookiecutter]

I have to got to work, but I will edit this post in response to the last few pages later. Necuratul has hit the majors points I wanted to cover so listen to him.

EDIT: AchrisK, ask yourself what kind of evidence you would need before you believed in Zeus. I assume that you would need more than a few anecdotes, a few holy texts with an occasional correct detail, or the other things you talked about. We need (and everyone should need) that higher level of evidence before belief.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

so let me get this straight with moses... he crossed the 70 mile red sea and parted the waters and reached the other side before some guys on horses

40 years in the desert wandering... lets do the math
40years x 365 days x 5 hours walking each day x 3 mph = he went 219,000 miles? before getting to civilization?

He was a really bad navigator. Kept going in circles.

 

[AchrisK]

so let me get this straight with moses... he crossed the 70 mile red sea and parted the waters and reached the other side before some guys on horses

40 years in the desert wandering... lets do the math
40years x 365 days x 5 hours walking each day x 3 mph = he went 219,000 miles? before getting to civilization?

Actually, he was following the "pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night". God was leading them effectively in circles becasuse he was waiting for all of the adult generation to die out so that none of them (except two) could go into the promised land. They initially got there pretty quickly, but because they doubted God's word that he would help them fight the inhabitants and win, they all had to turn around and keep walking. Joshua and Caleb were the only two who were ready to go for it, and they were still alive when the Israelites finally entered the land.

...in case you really wondered why it took them so long.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Actually, he was following the "pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night". God was leading them effectively in circles becasuse he was waiting for all of the adult generation to die out so that none of them (except two) could go into the promised land. They initially got there pretty quickly, but because they doubted God's word that he would help them fight the inhabitants and win, they all had to turn around and keep walking. Joshua and Caleb were the only two who were ready to go for it, and they were still alive when the Israelites finally entered the land.

...in case you really wondered why it took them so long.

Sounds like God was being a real dick.

 

[Ender Rises]

Sounds like God was being a real dick.

Generally he is a real dick.

 

[Carcassian]

I'm a half-Jewish asshole.


...But I don't run Hollywood.

...damn it. I was going to ask you why you made Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Starship Troopers 2, The Star Wars Prequels, Close Encounters, Jaws 2, Jaws 3, Jaws the revenge, Die hard 2, Die Hard 3 etc etc etc *

Mind you, thanks for Goodfellas.
EDIT* but especially Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom. Why God, why ?

 

[Ender Rises]

Without Die Hard 2 and 3 we wouldn't have had Die Hard 4.

There was a Starship Troopers 2?! uke:

 

[Carcassian]

Yeah. It was awesome.
































































Not rly.

 

[Ender Rises]

What, DH 4 or ST 2?

 

[Carcassian]

ST2. I liked DH4, bizarrely. Well, I say "liked". More accurately "didn't hate". Which is the first film I haven't hated since 300, which I similarly didn't hate, despite it not being very "good".

 

[Ender Rises]

I would think you would have loved DH 4 and 300.

ST1 kicked ass but was nowhere near the book.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Actually, he was following the "pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night".

I believe that ended after they crossed the Red Sea. This phenomena has only mention in Exodus and is not recorded afterwards. My theory is that the Israelites became nomadic because it was impossible for them to best the vastly superior military power of the local tribes and the "punishment" aspect was a formulation by the Israelite leaders to keep Jews content with wandering. Only after they raised a few new generations of able-bodied men were they able to get into the "promised land".

 

[AchrisK]

I believe that ended after they crossed the Red Sea. This phenomena has only mention in Exodus and is not recorded afterwards. My theory is that the Israelites became nomadic because it was impossible for them to best the vastly superior military power of the local tribes and the "punishment" aspect was a formulation by the Israelite leaders to keep Jews content with wandering. Only after they raised a few new generations of able-bodied men were they able to get into the "promised land".

I am pretty sure it was continual. And when it stopped, they camped. And they stayed in the same place until it moved.

From Exodus 40:

34 Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and the (Z)glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle.

35 Moses was not able to enter the tent of meeting because the cloud had settled on it, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle.

36 Throughout all their journeys whenever the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the sons of Israel would set out;

37 but if the cloud was not taken up, then they did not set out until the day when it was taken up.

38 For throughout all their journeys, the cloud of the LORD was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in it by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Shit.

You know, for a Christian, I am not very well-versed. Kind of ironic, really. I think I know more about the occult and various German philosophers than the Bible.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

why are you a christian?

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

why are you a christian?

Cause he doesn't want to go to hell.

I do.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

So AchrisK, is the debate over?