OK. I do have on more question. As a Christian, how do you rationalize the "fact" that there were Jewish "miracles" and Pagan "miracles"?
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The Jew religion led to the christain religion. Your statement shows me you dont know.
a)Jesus was a jew.
b)That you dont know very much about the christian religion.
So, therefor, any Jewish miracles only support Christain miracles. This is because the Old Testament is what the Jews call the Torah(I think).
I do not know very much on pagan religions. I would be happy for someone to send me some info on pagan miracles and I am saying this is has a genuine statement not only has something to prove my point.
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Well, I have also read The Case For Faith and he seems to raise a lot of valid objections to the explanations given, and many of the answers make sense to me. Have you read any of his books?
Tell me if I am ignorant on this statement but these sightings and
miracles have been consistent for 2000 years. While I have not heard of any miracles or sightings in the name of Oden,Athena or any other pagan god.
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That's because people aren't pagans anymore. Just like in a few centuries, your little religion will be considered mythology as well, and stupid people will experience miracles from a newer religion instead.
Way to utterly miss the point. There are plenty of Classical sources referencing divinities doing miraculous things, for example the Iliad. I have not read them, so I will refrain from commenting on them further. I have not heard good things though.
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a lot of people consider Christianity mythology yet people still go to church. explain that!
Pointless post. Explain your point don't simply stop because you have nothing to say back or think you are not good to respond back
Good post at proving point.
I am going out to eat now I will respond back in a few hours.
You have not heard of any miracles of the pagan gods because you have failed to do any real research on the subject beyond going to church.
AchrisK
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Regarding Lee Strobel books:
Well, of course you have heard bad things about them. The Christians will say good things, the Atheists will say bad things. That is true with anything that takes a side in this type of issue. It's amazing how many Christian/Atheist/Creationist/Evolutionist responses exist to books and even to responses to books.
It's always good to know what the enemy is thinking...
Well, of course you have heard bad things about them. The Christians will say good things, the Atheists will say bad things. That is true with anything that takes a side in this type of issue. It's amazing how many Christian/Atheist/Creationist/Evolutionist responses exist to books and even to responses to books.
It's always good to know what the enemy is thinking...
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The Torah is the first five books of the Bible and an official Torah can only be in Hebrew. The Jews consider the modern Bible superfluous and irrelevant.
AchrisK said:
See, this is what's wrong with Christianity and, indeed, most religions. They cut themselves off from the rest of the world and complain that they're persecuted but it's okay because God will save them. This is very juvenile behavior, the kind of bullshit you'd see on an elementary school playground.
I basically do not wish to place my faith in something whose major goal is to "convert all the heathens" instead of making the most out of your life. By looking up all the time, you are doing things only out of a desire to be eternally rewarded and your intentions are selfish and greedy. Why can't I do things merely because I want to.
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