If you're talking about bands like The Acacia Strain, Becoming the Archetype, Job for A Cowboy, Martyr AD or the new All Shall Perish material then I'm almost inclined to agree with you. But they lend themselves more to what I'd consider to be hardcore than to deathmetal or melodic deathmetal. the metal elements these bands adapt are really said and done, but their music is pushing the boundaries of the hardcore genre further and further. This said, If I want to hear breakdowns I'd rather listen to Gojira than any hardcore band... and If I want to hear metal with soaring melodies I'd much rather listen to insomnium than bands of killswitch Engage's ilk.Killbot said:Metalcore is metal, it's just the majority of mainstream metalcore bands are pretty poor. There are some decent ones if you care to delve deeper into the genre.
Susperia said:I thought Metalcore was a shitty subgenre of Metal??
King Chaos said:@susperia: Metal isn't metalcore or numetal though. Anyone who thinks Metalcore is actually metal is misunderstanding. For instance, alot of uninformed music media do actually think atreyu and trivium is the current state of modern metal, but we know that's only the extremely commercial face of metal. Heartless soulless and shameful metalcore. If you write a song and say it's about cliche metal, but in actuallity have the song about the scene and metalcore you're obviously going to upset a few people.
V.V.V.V.V. said:Metalcore is technically metal. Let's not forget that, at times, hardcore can be as relentless and powerful as plenty of death metal (for instance, Ion Dissonance).
And not all metalcore is bad; while there is plenty of shit, there's also great stuff. Hey! Sounds like every other genre ever!
~Neurotica said:Yeah, everythings gonna be ok, Carcassian.
I hate your new name, Hanger.