The 'Little/Stupid Things That Irritate You' Thread

if you meet somebody out on the street, say at a bus stop, and say they're 73 years old, do you automatically expect them to do something momentous to "earn your respect", or do you let them get on the bus ahead of you, even offering a helping hand if they need help stepping up onto the bus? And while you're sitting there at the bus stop waiting for the bus to come, do you stuff your MP3 player's ear phones into your ears and then turn up the volume, or do you pack away the music and ask him how his life has been? I'm sure he'll tell you some interesting stories, for sure.

My great aunt was difficult to live with, for sure; but, when you got her talking about the right stuff, she could spin yarns about all sorts of great stories. How she was one of the first women to join military service, how she survived the SF quake in '89, how she caught city bus to the VA in the middle of a heart attack, her life in the military and all the places she saw, her regrets of not having a family of her own, yadda yadda. How can one immediately call a person like that to prove why you, as a younger, should respect them? Here is somebody who gave her life to our country to ensure our freedoms, and simply because she can talk crazy at times she should not be respected?

Somebody talking crazy on a bus can "respectfully" be disagreed with, I'm sure.

100% agreed here. I think there's also 2 different kinds of 'respect' that everyone's talking about, you don't have to 'respect' (ie. look up to them as someone you admire and wish to emulate) anyone if you don't want to, but should 'respect' (ie. treat everyone reasonably and with manners, and at least make an effort to be polite, even if they're being an absolute pain) I think everyone, but especially those who are elder...
 
dont tell me an ape actually climbed the Empire State building ?
or is it that thing about the space craft government cover up out in the desert

I would put giant apes into the realm of fantasy, not sci-fi.

and you have an example of this for me ?
...Better get the map from Kirk before he looses any more of his marbles.

In my opinion, you answered your own request.

Further on the topic, I think the imagination of sci-fi drives our technological developments forward, sometimes faster. Would we necessarily pursue a fantastical technological advancement if somebody hadn't imagined first what it would look like? Movies and novels provide a means for one's imagination to be related to others who have the abilities to carry that imagination forward. For instance, scientists recently remarked that they have figured out how to bend light around objects, which will be the first step toward invisibility or cloaking mechanisms.

I don't see how dirty looks, racial slurs, having stuff thrown at you, etc. can be seen as relative.

Wow, Yas, I must have missed your original introduction of that kind of treatment. Yes, that is disrespect in any relativity.

100% agreed here. I think there's also 2 different kinds of 'respect' that everyone's talking about, you don't have to 'respect' (ie. look up to them as someone you admire and wish to emulate) anyone if you don't want to, but should 'respect' (ie. treat everyone reasonably and with manners, and at least make an effort to be polite, even if they're being an absolute pain) I think everyone, but especially those who are elder...

Um, yeah, what he said... :lol:
 
Ken, if you meet somebody out on the street, say at a bus stop, and say they're 73 years old, do you automatically expect them to do something momentous to "earn your respect", or do you let them get on the bus ahead of you, even offering a helping hand if they need help stepping up onto the bus? And while you're sitting there at the bus stop waiting for the bus to come, do you stuff your MP3 player's ear phones into your ears and then turn up the volume, or do you pack away the music and ask him how his life has been? I'm sure he'll tell you some interesting stories, for sure.

@ ABQ: what i mean here is, of course the initial reaction to someone who is elderly would be to be polite and offer them a seat or whatever, that's not respecting elders so much as respecting humanity and being courteous to someone who has an obvious physical disadvantage. you would do the same for someone who is heavily pregnant/has a pram/has a wheelchair etc. i think our ideas of respect in this matter are very different, if someone who is old/older speaks rudely to me or huffs around like they should have everything handed to them on a golden platter i will still be polite (somewhat), but they have no respect from me on a personal level and i will politely put them back in their place. i don't think every old person is ghandi and i don't think older people are more intelligent than younger people. my boss is in her late 60's and is quadriplegic.. at first i tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, treated her nicely and respectfully and tried to empathize with her disability, but after a very short time i realised she does nothing but manipulate and power trip not only me, but everyone she can. so she lost my respect, and i don't care that she is old and disabled, i think she is still a pretty crappy human being because of the way she treats people. does that make any sense?
 
What's a pram?

If my legs and arms were taken away, I can imagine I'd be pretty flippin' pissy too.

baby carriage?

and taking away the arms and legs isnt what made her a bitch, she was one before that, she just never changed, and for the record it drives me nuts that i feel you just argue for the sake of arguing, never 'oh i see your point or understand where you're coming from'.. anyway i cant be fucked with it anymore, ive explained myself as much as i can if you don't get it nothing i can do about it.
 
Well Im still doing good on this trillion dollar space machine with my kin on it to destinations unknown
got all kinds of stuff about submarines, and that some people are visionary (whoda thunk) but what about this skywalker guy fighting off weird looking aliens from solar systems that we can travel to in one week. Land on a lush planet, climb down the ladder and kneel on the ground, sift the soil through our fingers and say "terra"

Whats the big deal anyhow, God is gonna step in and straighten it all out anyhow, the meek shall inherit the earth

everyones waiting for the "new world"

must be part of that consumerism thing

"hey lets just get a new world, bored with this one"
 
baby carriage?

and taking away the arms and legs isnt what made her a bitch, she was one before that, she just never changed, and for the record it drives me nuts that i feel you just argue for the sake of arguing, never 'oh i see your point or understand where you're coming from'.. anyway i cant be fucked with it anymore, ive explained myself as much as i can if you don't get it nothing i can do about it.

A pram is a baby carriage? Never heard that... Is that like, "Australian for bee-yuh"? :)

I'm not arguing at all, Charis.
 
my observation was that some people were talking about two different kinds of respect. One confrontational reactions and the second, respect for experiences and knowing one may not have been down all those roads yet.

As I get older and become one of the old farts, Im loosing my old people and I have to say I miss them and was enlightened by some of what I listened to and eventually slapped up side the face by things I did not listen to and then theres the stuff I forgot. My Grandfathers generation was keen, lived through the depression, both relevent wars, remembered some older guys running around on peg legs from the Civil war, saw most of the industrial revolution, saw the country prosper big time after WWII, had unbelievable hand skills, knew how to do just about anything that needed to be done and dreded none of it, just did it and moved on to the next. As a rule most of those men were crusty as all hell but you knew damn well they looked at us and thought "they have no idea how good they have had it". Cant speak for the women, most of them were homemakers and mothers then grandmothers, then again they knew how to do more than most today as well. It was inconcievable to not respect them and any signs of such would have found your mothers hand swiftly up side the ass. Im not sure how the change came to take place, it didnt in my house but in others it did, maybe it came from synthetic social values passed around in school, who knows.