The Nevermore Thread
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schenkadere
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Keith! said:
Amott's playing matured greatly between Heartwork and Arch Enemy's Stigmata. Stigmata and Burning Bridges far exceed his Carcass work.
So much for a parting note.
I've been playing guitar for 27 years...I have seen metal guitarist evolve and progress from the early days to present and I've seen many guitarists come and go. I think I have a pretty solid background to formulate my opinions. I don't base those opininons on what music or songs I like...I'm speaking only of playing ability, feel, phrasing, technical prowess, use of dynamics, maintaining the melody and integrity of the song within the solo. I like Loomis and I like a lot of Nevermore's catalog, but it seems so many of the put downs here are extremely naive and come from lack of listening and playing experience.
Embrace the instrument and open your ears.
schenkadere
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NFU
I like pie.
im surprised someone with 27 years of playing under his belt would even be interested in someone like alexi laiho. cant imagine what that must mean about your thoughts of loomis. jesus.
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affinityband said:
your always drunk affinity
Im not drunk but Im sitting at work VERY hungover
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schenkadere
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NineFeetUnderground said:
Never said I liked him...just said he's a great technician.
Yes...I'm sure you're the man, or woman, or whatever you are with your scary 8 years of playing other peoples shit.
NFU
I like pie.
schenkadere said:
easy cowboy, now youre putting words into my mouth. i never claimed to be the best guitar player. in fact i said how i wasnt a shredder nor ever claimed to be or ever will be. what i did say, is that with merely 8 years of experience, i can play laiho solos without any real difficulty, but loomis continues to blow me away with his talent. for a man of your age, i shouldnt imagine that concept is entirely hard to grasp. but maybe im overestimating you. frankly, i dont care either way...discussions concerning laiho are silly no matter what in the scheme of things.
Kenneth R.
Cináed
It's pretty easy to tell who has more technical skills out of the two imo. Don't know how you can say Laiho has more than Loomis. Perhaps comparing the two live would make you see sense.
NFU
I like pie.
thats funny you say that...i saw nevermore AND bodom on the same bill. i had to sit through bodom's set...it was quite painful. but even the douchebag bodom fans' jaws were dropping at loomis' stuff. so oh well, whatever.
loomis kept kneeling down while playing his solos and I was stuck behind an absurdly tall guy with big curly hair
schenkadere
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Keith! said:
I saw a trade off between Loomis and the other guitarist...wasn't impressed...pretty sad actually...improvisation ain't their strong point.
Final note...don't like Laiho, can't stand COB...he's a great technician...period. His technical skills are stronger(better, cleaner, faster picking and fingering for sure) but I prefer to listen to Loomis. COB is bubble gum shit. Nevermore gets a little powdery and fluffy at times, but Enemies of Reality is a great album and a great vehicle to spotlight Loomis' talent...he really opens up here.
I don't think we totally disagree here...I simply listed other talented guitarists that were overlooked or being put down for reasons that didn't seem to have anything to do with their musical and technical abilities.
Don't want to start a war...just want guitarists to open their minds and see the strengths of other players. There are so many clone guitarists out there now...it's hard for young guitarists to really grow and not get stuck in the same old thing.
Sorry if my advanced age offends you...you'll all be nearing 40 one day...I'm lucky enough to have stayed unpathetically young at heart and mind...my teenage kids don't seem to mind hanging with me at the metal shows and meeting some of their favorite bands backstage or watching me shred. I hope you all can say that when you get here.
NFU
I like pie.
schenkadere said:
by the same token, your age doesnt deem you superior necessarily. theres boatloads of guitarists you still havent heard im sure, and what you consider to be superior technical skills, isnt necessarily the final say in what is the most talented playing. but i respect your opinion for the most part, i just cannot wrap my head around your opinion of laiho being better than loomis. its pretty mindblowing actually. ive seen both bands many times, and heard every song by both bands...and theres just not even a comparison.
Loomis could play Malmsteen licks in his sleep while farting at 16 and he nearly got the Megadeth gig instead of Friedman but Mustaine said that he was not ready and too young ( 17 at the time I think).
Wasn't Schenker 17 when he joined Scorpions ?
Wasn't Schenker 17 when he joined Scorpions ?
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I would just to bring things to a close and state that schenkadere's sig and NFU's avatar give me the horn.
that is all.
that is all.
