The new pic thread

[KitKat]

liar!

Of course I am not. Don't be modest!
I think you're cute! That is it...

New pix on my Flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/drunkykat/

 

[wildfyr]

Villain,

I do not believe it's an exaggeration. We all know what has transpired here over the years. Some of the things you hate that you associate with America are not specific only to America but can be applied to other developed countries, hypocrisy being the one that stands out most in my mind. But also: Idiotic mass-media? I've seen "The World's Funniest Commercials" before so... Check! Religious fundementalism? Although, admittedly, it is more extreme in certain select locations it is not specific only to America. Check. Commercialism/unfair capitalism? Commercialism: Check. (See Idiotic mass-media) Hmmm. Unfair capitalism? What is that? I tried to explain my personal belief about economic -isms several pages back in this thread but probably didn't do a very good job of it. Granted it's a weird position but if you think about it - no matter what you call it - it all boils down to greed, which knows no geo-theo-politico boundaries. Military imperialism? Well, most countries have armed forces but I doubt this one can be applied. Let it be known that I am no fan of armed conflict (War), though. I believe elitism is detestable as well. One doesn't even have to subscribe to a theocratic -ism to know that that is just WRONG on every level. Based on the answers received in the Q&A thread I could not discern any great differences regarding the everyday life of the average U.S. citizen vs the average E.U. citizen. Surely there are differences, but how great are they?

Villain, please understand that I mean no disrespect here, I'm just trying to get my head around it all. For the past 7 years I've witnessed and sometimes reacted to (and not always in the best manner), instances of direct or implied American hatred here, and at other forums. I wouldn't call this one a pro-American forum, to me it's more like 'reluctantly American-tolerant'. On the other side of that, please understand that I have noticed that you and some others have squelched your negative opinions on the matter here yet it does continue to crop up, and in more quantities than may be palatable to some. I've also considered that perhaps this forum's extremely high grammar/literary standards are unrealistic and might actually be a pre-judgement that poor written communication habits are American-borne in nature. I'm not really sure to be honest. It does seem like the grammar nazism is a sanctioned thing around here as the often severe admonishments by #1 and others are allowed to stand even though their own written communication hasn't always been completely flawless every time. I've found several of the admonishments to be repulsive even if they were not thrown in my direction, but that's probably just me feeling empathy for the recipient. Other things that bother me about this forum (Check it!) could be mentioned here but I think I'll pause and reflect. My response to TheFourthHorseman above, especially the part about ignorance and also the part about being down "that" road before explain a lot about how I feel right now about the ground that's already been covered. Whether they do/Whether they don't. Whether they did and don't anymore. Whether they did and still do now more than ever. Gaaaah. Watch the "wheth" change

Hopefully that long-winded rant helps clarify my view on the matter. If not, I suspect you may wish to probe further and that's okay. By the way, I really do wish you, TheFourthHorseman, Siren, and others would contribute more pictorial data to this thread. As for all the fresh fotos that have been posted since my last visit... OooooohLALA people! Kudos to all: Plinty, Marek, Caroline, and Nico. Some mighty tasty stuff there. Don't stop now. Keep 'em coming!!

Before I go and in case anyone is interested, some new updates have occurred at my site - other than the last DT update, that is. Feel free to surf over to http://www.eyesoffyr.com if you want. I've converted a seldom-used page into a page for fotos of "Structures" created by humans and other animals. I think Tali was interested in filigrane architecture a while back. Please be advised that fotos of avian- and rodent-created filigrane structures can be found there within the new Structures page. Thanks in advance for visiting, and thanks after the fact for all the DT page visits since March! There have been quite a few. WooOooW!!!

 

[marduk1507]

Watch the "wheth" change

That was cool. But dont do that to me again, I couldnt for the life of me remember where its from. But the bulb finally went on, so alls good.

 

[Villain]

Son, you are stuck somewhere in Finland, right? So how can you really understand what really is going on 10k km away from you and be disliking it basing all your hate and whatever on knowledge, but not on experience?

I fail to see how this is of any relevance to anything I said above. Or do you mean that I have not experienced enough misery or suffering to say I hate how Americans kill tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis or how the American-led global economy makes rich richer and poor poorer every day? If that is true, then there are only a very few people on this earth who understand anything by your standards. As I said, my hate is directed at American politics, which happen to have an effect on pretty much every human being on this earth. I could go to Iraq or Vietnam or any other country destroyed by Americans, if I wanted (I'm not really stuck here, you know), but I don't think that would have a great effect on my understanding. Of anything.

Wildfyr: It seems that either you missed my point or I didn't quite get yours. It might be that we are reading different threads here, but I honestly must say I haven't seen that many anti-American remarks here since I stopped writing them myself. And no, I did not come to this thread to bring up this topic, I only commented because you implied that the band might be harboring some anti-American opinions and I wanted to tell you that I've never heard or read them express any such thoughts.

Anyways, my point is this: Had the picture TheFourthHorseman commented on been taken in Japan, would you have called him anti-Japanese? In my opinion, you are being overly sensitive here. He did not make it an American-only issue, you did.

I doubt any of the regulars on this forum hate people just because they happen to live in some country. I hate everyone who supports the politics of Bush and his government, but I likewise hate everyone who supports the politics of Kim Jong Il and his goverment. Does that make me anti-North Korean, too?

And finally, I admit pointing fingers solely at the US government might be a little unfair, but you know, no other government has so much effect on the lives of the average people on this earth right now. If the British Empire was still at its strongest and waged wars against weaker countries every few years, you for sure could call me anti-British. And if by some weird chance Finland becomes the most powerful country in the world and suddenly starts to destroy other countries to steal their resources, feel free to label me anti-Finnish.

-Villain

 

[fireangel]

For the past 7 years I've witnessed and sometimes reacted to (and not always in the best manner), instances of direct or implied American hatred here, and at other forums. I wouldn't call this one a pro-American forum, to me it's more like 'reluctantly American-tolerant'.

I think that the opinions are distributed quite equally. Right now there might not be so much discussion on that topic, but when it was at the high-time of the invasion to Iraq and Afghanistan, it seemed that whenever someone voiced his/her opinion on either side, you could be sure that a bunch of counter-opinions would follow. Also there are US-forumers who were against these operations, or neutral towards them, and European forumers strongly in favour of US-politics, so there are no pre-sets on Europeans being anti-US-politics or US-americans being in favour of them. It depends on the person.

 

[plintus]

I fail to see how this is of any relevance to anything I said above. Or do you mean that I have not experienced enough misery or suffering to say I hate how Americans kill tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis or how the American-led global economy makes rich richer and poor poorer every day? If that is true, then there are only a very few people on this earth who understand anything by your standards. As I said, my hate is directed at American politics, which happen to have an effect on pretty much every human being on this earth. I could go to Iraq or Vietnam or any other country destroyed by Americans, if I wanted (I'm not really stuck here, you know), but I don't think that would have a great effect on my understanding. Of anything.
-Villain

Son, you have nothing to do with local government, in fact - you are just blathering, having no opportunity to change anything about that. Yeah, life isn't fair, just shut the fuck up, and make it to the top, and then try to change the world, if you still be willing to.

Oh, they are destoying poor Iraq... Aye, another thing: I grew up in a country claimed to be the last stronghold of dictatorship these days - Belarus, if that's ringing any bells. North Korea of Europe, if you know what I'm talking about. You know what I would do if the US wanted to "bring democracy" over there? I'd be the first in line to sign-up for a death squad. Oh yeah, I want justice, I want all those KGB fucks who were nihilating me and my friends back in the day dead. And I don't give a fuck about invasion and other shit someone will assume. But that's my story, for instance.

All you can see about Middle East is from the outside. But going on the inside can bring some shocking revelations... how 'bout AK-47 up your ass in Baghdad? You'd scream for Bush! It all depends, you know.

Please mention - I mean no personal offense, all is just a clash of opinions/other differences. Savvy?

 

[La Rocque]

Whatever happened to peace, love and understanding?

More photos, please

 

[TheFourthHorseman]

Anyways, my point is this: Had the picture TheFourthHorseman commented on been taken in Japan, would you have called him anti-Japanese? In my opinion, you are being overly sensitive here. He did not make it an American-only issue, you did.

/love

All you can see about Middle East is from the outside. But going on the inside can bring some shocking revelations... how 'bout AK-47 up your ass in Baghdad? You'd scream for Bush! It all depends, you know.

Is that really supposed to mean something? The people on the inside cannot, or at least rarely do, see the situation objectively. We cannot either, but you must understand what I mean. Hell, if I had an AK-47 up my ass I would probably be praying for Jesus, not Bush, but does that mean I give a shit about God?

 

[GONE Ridin' Hood]

Cool pics Nico, I specially liked the one of Mikael smiling with his teeth out hehe. He looks really funny LOL .

 

[plintus]

Is that really supposed to mean something? The people on the inside cannot, or at least rarely do, see the situation objectively. We cannot either, but you must understand what I mean. Hell, if I had an AK-47 up my ass I would probably be praying for Jesus, not Bush, but does that mean I give a shit about God?

No, I must not I can understand, though, but - what how objective can it be since there's always 2 sides to the story? Villain is preaching "fuck Bush (US government) - free Iraq ("opressed" countries)" (roughly put), but really - who the fuck is he? Yes, he has an opinion, I respect it, but what's exactly the point of hating US international politics and whatever, except chatting about it online or in a coffee shop, instead of really doing something?.. oh yeah, there were some guys blowing bombs in Oklahoma (or wherever that mall was?), or flying planes into buildings after 9/11 supporting bin Laden, or shooting people in DC for whatever sick reasons they had, oh yeah, way to go!

Haha, so you'd give it up and die then? My first thought would be "Where the fuck those fucking marines are?" Well, and probably the last one.

 

[marduk1507]

I want all those KGB fucks who were nihilating me and my friends back in the day dead. And I don't give a fuck about invasion and other shit someone will assume. But that's my story, for instance.

Im interested in that, honestly. Have you ever talked about it here, because I cant remember. Whats your story?

 

[plintus]

Im interested in that, honestly. Have you ever talked about it here, because I cant remember. Whats your story?

Been participating in peaceful acts of protest back in the day, in a few episodes had glasses broken on my face, almost lost my eye that time, been arrested, interrogated by KGB, had my wrist broken trying to defend myself (oh yeah, nothing changed there), they promissed to make me a SWAT training dummy... poor SWAT Broken limbs, nose, a few scars on my face (gone or pale now, all around that eye).

My friends just did time this spring (2 weeks) by taking part in presidential election on behalf of the opposition candidate. They kept them outside against the wall for hours, not letting to go to the bathroom (without passport, fuck), 3 times more people in the cell, not being able to breathe normally, no water or food for the first day or so, man, that was just sick.

It's all got worse now, but people don't even fight back any longer... but anyway - what can you do against that many "law" enforcers?

This March:

http://www.svaboda.org/articlesfeatures/politics/2006/3/0ADF2C87-7991-48FA-AE5C-28641C5D1721.html

http://www.svaboda.org/articlesfeatures/politics/2006/3/B37489A9-FE8D-4100-8D7F-FE2CED33A262.html

 

[marduk1507]

I know whats going on in Belarus, its not that far from us. I just didnt know you participated in the protests there. You have my total respect for that, really.

Our present prime minister is so fucked up in the head, that when he was in the opposition, he visited Belarus and kissed Lukashenkos ass. And now he leads the government. Hes the worst populist in the world, thats why he won. But still its nothing compared to Belarus.

 

[Nt3N]

isn't this the pics thread? ............

 

[VultureCulture]

fuck off.

 

[Nt3N]

fuck off.

are fucking creazy?

 

[plintus]

I know whats going on in Belarus, its not that far from us. I just didnt know you participated in the protests there. You have my total respect for that, really.

Our present prime minister is so fucked up in the head, that when he was in the opposition, he visited Belarus and kissed Lukashenkos ass. And now he leads the government. Hes the worst populist in the world, thats why he won. But still its nothing compared to Belarus.

Thanks But that was all back in the day, I'm coming back in a few years, I think, to take part in a full-blown revolution, something serious, not what they are doing now, which was pathetic. No, no terrorism, no worries

And that guy you are talking about is kinda... yeah, you are probably right

are fucking creazy?

I posted some links with photos for ya, up-top, noworries

 

[Tritonus]

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I would so have fallen for that.

Lovely pictures


And Pliny. I recognize that guy....

 

[plintus]

@Tri: oh yeah? Old pic, last Sunday's photosession didn't work out

fuck *YOU*

all those were unnecessary though Calm down, kids.

 

[La Rocque]

I guess we're done with the f'n?

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