The Paranormal Thread

[zoidberg]

its not impossible, its just that theres a good chancce, and they arent out there then thats a huge disappointment.

we will probally destroy earth and all die before we ever make contact.

 

[Mort Divine]

I hate the fact that people always say that "It is impossible because the conditions needed for life are too specific" but I think that we far too narrowly define life - intelligent life too for that matter.

 

[cookiecutter]

No, it does not have to be. That is complete bullshit. If I were born thousands of years ago I could have said "I believe that humans are capable of creating something that will fly" and yet that could NOT have been proven for many MANY years, yet it is NOT unreasonable to believe that.

This is not the same thing. Your a hypothesizing a future not hypothesizing the existence of something. If a thousand years ago you said "There exists a machine that can fly" you would've been wrong just as you are wrong about ghosts.

Strictly adhering to scientific reasoning is as silly as beliving any paranormal stuff, I mean you're going on OBSERVABLE facts, which really doesn't always account for the whole of the situation. (Which is why the dark matter thing is mentioned, we can NOT even observe it - we know it is there, but it is completely unobservable.)

Dark Matter can be observed indirectly. That is an observable fact. Science discovered Dark Matter so I don't see how you are using it to say scientific reasoning is invalid. Can you name a real example where scientific reason fails?

I know I'm contradicting myself here with my not believing in god without experiencing it but ... I never claimed to be perfect.

Ask yourself why you are contradicting yourself and if that contradiction is rational. If it's not maybe you should reassess your views.

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on aliens and ufos tbqh.

Don't exist.

Edit: By aliens and ufos I assumed you meant green men around our planet abducting people. I definitely believe in our universe there is other life.

This will be my last post on the subject in this thread. If you wish to continue this argument via PMs or a Skepticism thread I am willing to do that.

 

[Matt]

This will be my last post on the subject in this thread. If you wish to continue this argument via PMs or a Skepticism thread I am willing to do that.

Make a skepticism thread if you wish, but it's extremely surprising that you think aliens don't exist.

 

[zoidberg]

I hate the fact that people always say that "It is impossible because the conditions needed for life are too specific" but I think that we far too narrowly define life - intelligent life too for that matter.

yeah, many bacterium can thrive in the most extreme of conditions. i would think all you need is water.

 

[cookiecutter]

Read my edit. I clarified my answer.

 

[Matt]

Read my edit. I clarified my answer.

I agree with that.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

yeah, many bacterium can thrive in the most extreme of conditions. i would think all you need is water.

A lot of them (anaerobic ones) do not even need water...they can live in like...fucking sulphur fields and shit.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Coincidence?

 

[A8]

aliens have to exist. what makes us so special? besides even when you try to think about the universe its so hard to imagine, for all we know it simply goes on forever. So, how could they not exist

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[Mort Divine]

That is the one thing that fails you cookie, your all too stubborn adherence to "science."

I'll post more later, maybe PM you - but I'm not all that interested currently in argueing. I'd much rather discuss paranormal stuff.

 

[zoidberg]

i think you mean the universe. but yeah, your right.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Don't you faggots listen to George Carlin or read CLavin ANd Hobbes?

The fact that aliens haven't contacted us is surely a sign that they ARE intelligent.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Coincidence?

ROFL.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

What makes us so special?

WE wuz mades by jezus.

 

[cookiecutter]

That is the one thing that fails you cookie, your all too stubborn adherence to "science."

I'll post more later, maybe PM you - but I'm not all that interested currently in argueing. I'd much rather discuss paranormal stuff.

I know I said it was my last post but I just have to respond to this.

1. Putting things in quotes does not make your argument better.

2. You haven't responded to any of my points.

3. You haven't actually provided reasons why science is something you shouldn't adhere to, you just stated it.

I really don't know what to say at this point. If you can willfully disregard the only way through which humanity has ever accurately understood reality, then you can believe whatever crazy shit you want and nothing I say will change your mind.

CC out

 

[Mort Divine]

I said I'd post more later, I'm not ignoring your post - I will get to it but I'm tired and want to talk paranormal before I get to bed

Really I'm not saying that one shouldn't accept science and use it to analyze things, I'm just saying that using ONLY science and accepting ONLY science as reality is a very un-"whole picture" giving way of looking at things.

 

[A1a23]

I've seen UFOs.

 

[Kudzu]

Prove it.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

aliens have to exist. what makes us so special? besides even when you try to think about the universe its so hard to imagine, for all we know it simply goes on forever. So, how could they not exist

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exactly!