TechnicalBarbarity
Poser Disposer
... this country has indeed went to shit, hopefully it'll get better now. I doubt it though, the leftists have hit this country with pretty much a kill shot. It'll take more than bum like trump to turn it around.
Yeah, because protesting never accomplished anything. Ever heard of MLK? Cesar Chavez?
Protesting accomplishes several things.
1. It sends a message to Trump and his administration. There is no mandate and you, your policies, and values are rejected by a massive portion of the population.
2. Representatives: You better represent the will of the people if you want to keep your jobs.
3. Be ready for a fight. The most powerful states and cities in the union overwhelmingly reject you and we're ready to stand up against us.
Now granted, the real test will be when there's something specific to protest and the protest comes at a cost, but this is a first step.
I've lived in the South for nearly 25 years. I've heard of MLK. I lived in Yuma for ~7. I've heard of Chavez. Chavez would have loved Trump. Build a wall, made in Murka, etc.
IIRC Democrats lost something like 1000 seats on the local/state/federal level since Barack Obama won in 2008. That could be easily construed as a mandate. I think Representatives at all levels know what the score is.
You sure don't act like it with your dumb fuck statement of "what's the point of protesting?" nonsense.
When you lose the popular vote by 3 million, there is no mandate (especially when you add in about seven million more votes for third party candidates). Furthermore, the idea that Trump has a mandate because of Republicans are in office throughout the nation doesn't hold since Trump's positions are in many cases opposed to those of Republican orthodoxy.
Democrats being out of touch with too many of the peoples' concerns.
Is it true that more people walked in protest against him than actually turned up to the inauguration?
Is it true that more people walked in protest against him than actually turned up to the inauguration?
According to Trump those estimates are FAKE NEWS and he reckons he had a million to a million and a half, hahaestimates ive heard/read was 200k for inaug, 500k for protest. let alone all the protests in cities all over the world
starting to really wonder who voted for the dude haha it's insane
The first portion is irrelevant since the popular vote difference disappears when you either subtract 1 state or subtract a few concrete jungles.
The latter would make a really good point, except that the stuff that protestors are marching about are not the things that markedly diverge from typical Republican positions. Where Trump diverges is much more in line with Bernie Sanders, who was probably pretty popular with the protestors.
Establishment Democrats have demonstrated that they are more concerned about non-Americans than Americans for the better part of the new millennium, among other issues (not that Republicans are better in practical terms). The "gerrymandering" complaints are a red herring, both parties do it and have done it. Each side only complains when they suck at it.
What blatant sophistry. If you subtract 3 million from 66 million, then it is the same as 63 million. No shit, Sherlock. 66 million is still more than 63 million and you can't have a mandate when your primary opponent gets almost 5% more votes than you.
How is it a red herring? I never denied that both parties do it. Lately, the Republicans have been the ones doing it most and with advancements in technology, have been able to be more precise in drawing the lines than ever before. I don't deny the Democrats would probably do the same thing given the chance.
It's already been mentioned that campaigns may have looked different were the Presidency been based on popular vote rather than state by state FPTP. It is, at the least, no less "sophist" to put weight on the "popular vote" than it is to put weight on the majority in the majority of states. I appreciate the federal system that provides some protection to people spread across the national landscape from the large clusters living in the handful of megalopoli.
It's a red herring in the context of both the presidency and in claiming it creates representation issues.
Your election cycle this time around has made me lose so much respect for many of my American friends. Who gets depressed over not being able to protest at an inauguration?