The Political & Philosophy Thread

[rms]

https://socialequity.duke.edu/research/wealth

basically follow these links from Sandy Darity, he's an economist and this 'wealth gap' is his thang. I posted the studies a few weeks ago, but it basically sums down to --- White people have too much wealth, we need an inheritance tax so black people can 'catch' up or 'surpass' whitey in wealth

I just thought those bullets were funny. basically suggesting that no matter what you do, as a black man (probably worse as a woman), you aren't gaining wealth. how demotivating

I'm surprised that people are perplexed that a system benefits the wealthy & why catching the wealth of others is more important than elevating your socio-economic status. But, I think this is the moving of the goal posts of 21st century sociologists, both racial and gender based academics.

 

[Dak]

I bet if you changed "some college" to "College degree" and then controlled for median wages within degree fields, those gaps would start disappearing.

 

[rms]

i asked if there was a degree search by race/ethnicity study in the states, similar to women but for blacks, but haven't seen anything yet. in my understanding and experience, blacks seem to get courted towards the humanities like white women

i'm going for Computer Science now and the ethnic demographics of my 300+ person class are hilarious

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Even gaining a degree doesn't mean that much on its own. The bottom quartile of BA/BS holders have the same income as the average high school grad. You have to actually have a good and valuable degree if you want a job. College is one of the biggest shams right now.

 

[Baroque]

i asked if there was a degree search by race/ethnicity study in the states, similar to women but for blacks, but haven't seen anything yet. in my understanding and experience, blacks seem to get courted towards the humanities like white women

i'm going for Computer Science now and the ethnic demographics of my 300+ person class are hilarious

that's a good degree. what are the demographics like? I'm guessing: mostly asian, some white, some indian

 

[Dak]

College enrollment and graduation has been inflated, and therefore devalued (in general terms).

 

[Dak]

http://www.reuters.com/investigates...adigan/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

"Chicago politics"

Illinois is beyond broke. It is the first state in eight decades to go without an annual budget, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Its bond ratings, the lowest of any state, are near junk status. It is projected to have a budget deficit this fiscal year of $5.3 billion and owes vendors about $10.8 billion in unpaid bills.

 

[CiG]

Are Indians and Asians separated in statistics? Just curious.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Afaik, generally not.

 

[J.]

White people have too much wealth, we need an inheritance tax so black people can 'catch' up or 'surpass' whitey in wealth

We do. Its called the death tax. Hopefully trump gets it repealed

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

It's called the estate tax, not the death tax. You're like the wingnut version of Mort Divine.

 

[CiG]

It's also called an inheritance tax.

 

[J.]

It's called the estate tax, not the death tax. You're like the wingnut version of Mort Divine.

Call it what you will. Same shit.

 

[tagradh]

It's funny that, in the UK anyway, some of the loudest opposition to inheritance tax comes from people that really don't need to worry about it. I guess that's because they largely read papers that are owned and edited by people that do.

 

[CiG]

Yeah why would someone be against something that doesn't actually impact them? Weird.

 

[CiG]

No really? It can't be!

 

[CiG]

That explains why whites were against slavery, until now I just assumed they did it for the lolz, not expecting slavery to actually end.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

That explains why whites were against slavery, until now I just assumed they did it for the lolz, not expecting slavery to actually end.

Well, first of all, I'm surprised you wouldn't say those white abolitionists were all just virtue-signalling.

It is a false equivalence to equate those railing against oppression that doesn't personally affect them with those railing against a policy which inconveniences the well-to-do, because they believe it does affect them.

 

[CiG]

Well, first of all, I'm surprised you wouldn't say those white abolitionists were all just virtue-signalling.

Only a moron would be surprised at that and I don't consider you a moron, so that's kind of surprising.

It is a false equivalence to equate those railing against oppression that doesn't personally affect them with those railing against a policy which inconveniences the well-to-do, because they believe it does affect them.

It's false to claim that those railing against inheritance tax believe it affects them. What proof do you have that they think that?

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

It's false to claim that those railing against inheritance tax believe it affects them. What proof do you have that they think that?

I'm not saying everyone who opposes it believes it affects them. The wealthy people who oppose it do so because they know it affects them. However, tagradh said that the loudest opposition to it, at least in the UK, comes from people who aren't affected by it. It's his claim, not mine, but you chose to run with it. You brought up the analogy of opposition to slavery, so as to imply that those particular people are opposed to the inheritance tax out of similar humanitarian impulses, which is an absurd comparison to make.