? stop playing stupid. you do it all too well.
if you need a FURTHER explanation;
those are bands that were defining in 'metal' or what would be 'metal' in a few short years...
they did new things, they got shit for it.
you know what, fuck it, be ignorant.
i realized in life, i can get along with anyone, but at points in time i dont see why i should even bother.
i will never meet any of you, and im glad.
ohh wait, go to our shows! err - you know what, that would require leaving such a dismal forum.