I'm surprised by the reaction to this thread. I was expecting a "just use Jazz IIIs (or whatever) and you'll be right" followed by a few +1s then end thread.
I cut your post down because it was too long to quote and respond to all of it. Good stuff though.
...A player with poor pick control would struggle to play metal properly with thin picks because it requires greater control, you can't rely on the pick being stable through fast picked phrases you have to actually control it yourself by not using too much tip.
I do think I'm a much better player than when I first started with the thicker picks. I was surprised at how little it bothered me using a thin pick when I tried this. In the past if I played with someone else's thin pick I hated it.
hmm, might be time to step down from 1 mm to 0.80
Try even thinner. I've been testing a lot of thicknesses and about 0.60mm seem to be the sweet spot.
Maybe I should give this a shot too.. I noticed the same for bass, but never tried it on guitar
Do it, it's the cheapest thing you can change. Though I'm not 100% committed yet, it's the happiest I've been with picks for a long time.
personally i have found that using a thinner pick has improved my playing technique (as has using less gain on my amps). i feel like thick picks and high gain can be a bit of a crutch if not used correctly.
Yeah, I don't know what it is but I just feel more in command, it seems more tactile, like I'm setting the string in motion, like more of my work is going straight to the string instead of the pick.
I need 1mm, if they're thinner they need to be really hard for me, but I file them pretty
often to make them more pointy so that I am only hitting the string with a sharp point.
Never found picks that are hard enough for me and still not that thick.
I've been sharpening them to a point. Makes all the difference. If you leave them just round standard pick shape you get too much of that initial pick scrape IMO. As for how hard you might be surprised, if you don't show too much pick to the string they actually feel fine.
Using Tortex III .60 and sometimes Ultex .60 for about a year and and I'm happy(used Jazz III 1.38 before), I'm really into the way the attack sounds compared to the Jazz's.
Yes! The attack is where it's at. And plus one on Tortex. It just has a nice bite to it. I find most of the other materials instead of giving you nice pick scrape on the attack they give you a horrible clicky sound.
I dont like super thin or anything. But a medium pick (.60) or so is perfect. I dont mind a think pick for "picking" but i find that a thick pick kinda gets hung up on the strings a little when chugging and shit.
Indeed. I think 0.60mm might be the sweet spot. IMO any thinner and it's too hard to play and thicker you start to lose the effect that the thinner pick offers.
I keep a bunch of Tortex .50s and 1s around and just use whatever sounds best for the part.
Actually in the Andrew Wade video both he and Keith Merrow talk about using different picks for different parts.
God I fucking hate thin picks.
One thing I've found kind of interesting is that back when I used thicker picks (1.14mm Tortex JIII's/the XJJ from InTuneGP) I couldn't play worth shit on thinner picks if I switched. Now that I'm using thin picks 90% of the time, switching to a thicker pick isn't an issue and I can play equally well with any thickness of pick.
Even though I've only just started playing thinner picks I'm finding this is absolutely true.