Types of people you don't like

[Mort Divine]

Nothing contradictory about saying "act as you wish" while saying that society needs to stop forcing certain behaviors and traits as "how one is supposed to act" based on their sex/gender.

Act however you wish, but you shouldn't have to act any specific way. Fucking shitlord.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I do not suggest that masculinity and femininity are wrong. I suggest that society needs to stop giving gendered status to certain attributes.

Strength, stoicism, and pride should not be associated with the male gender, nor should tenderness, caring, or emotiveness be associated with the female gender.

Traits should be free play for anyone to take on without society placing expectations on them that they act a specific way.

People are free to operate within traditional roles if they desire, and the fact is that is likely how it will end up for the majority of people, but no one should be held to those standards.

It stifles the individual and molds them to act a certain way based solely on the fact that they were born a specific way. It leaves it so that trans individuals are left dealing with dysphoria, men often have no safe release of their emotions and react violently, and it outright just erases the existence of intersex people.

The gender binary is nothing but harmful and outdated.

I do not wish to tell people how to live their lives, I wish for people to be free to do as they please without societal pressures saying "You must act this way."

Ok, well that's a little more reasonable now that you put it into perspective. I'm still confused as to what your plan is for society to stop promoting expected gender roles. Who are the culprits pressuring you to have these roles? Is this something that you, personally, find difficult to defy? I feel like it's mostly something that a lot of people just do subconsciously within their own communities, and harmless as long as those who choose not to conform are treated respectfully.

These things get better with time, as illustrated over the past century. I'm not sure how much influence something like feminism had over positive social change throughout that time, but I know that the bad apples of modern feminism do a great job of alienating people from reconsidering their traditions.

 

[Dak]

Nothing contradictory about saying "act as you wish" while saying that society needs to stop forcing certain behaviors and traits as "how one is supposed to act" based on their sex/gender.

Act however you wish, but you shouldn't have to act any specific way. Fucking shitlord.

Last I checked, there is no law saying transqueerMuslimplantkins can't identify as transqueerMuslimplantkins. But these are contradictory:

I do not suggest that masculinity and femininity are wrong. I suggest that society needs to stop giving gendered status to certain attributes.

The gender binary is nothing but harmful and outdated.

If we remove the attributes of "masculinity" and "femininity", they become something else, or the prior arrangement of traits become something else. In either case, one of the key traits of traditional masculinity and femininity is being binary in nature. Additionally, those other traits you ascribe to each gender are not absolutely dichotomous. The slider is just generally more towards one way or the other. Otherwise you cannot be complementary. Hence binary.

To say that this is harmful, and must change, and then turn around and say "but you should be able to [identify in those ways]" is contradictory. The fact of the matter is you really don't have contradictory beliefs, it's just trying to CYA on problematic beliefs that puts you in an uncomfortable bind.

There is an important difference between tolerating something and supporting it. I'll tolerate the transqueerMuslimplantkins as in I won't seek laws to single them out for punishment. But I am under no ethical duty to offer them support beyond what they may require as human beings. Anything above and beyond that must be at the individual discretion, and if I continue to cut my grass anyway and a congregation of traditional Muslims won't accept the transqueer into a mosque, this isn't an injustice or harmful.

 

[Carpe Mortem]

Basically all these gender subgenres are really douchey to mention in casual conversation, and the more specific ones tend to be embraced by people craving individuality or fringe outsiders who don't make up enough of the populace to have their own description.

 

[Nephilim96]

Basically all these gender subgenres are really douchey to mention in casual conversation, and the more specific ones tend to be embraced by people craving individuality or fringe outsiders who don't make up enough of the populace to have their own description.

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[Manic Ferocity]

Last I checked, there is no law saying transqueerMuslimplantkins can't identify as transqueerMuslimplantkins. But these are contradictory:



If we remove the attributes of "masculinity" and "femininity", they become something else, or the prior arrangement of traits become something else. In either case, one of the key traits of traditional masculinity and femininity is being binary in nature. Additionally, those other traits you ascribe to each gender are not absolutely dichotomous. The slider is just generally more towards one way or the other. Otherwise you cannot be complementary. Hence binary.

To say that this is harmful, and must change, and then turn around and say "but you should be able to [identify in those ways]" is contradictory. The fact of the matter is you really don't have contradictory beliefs, it's just trying to CYA on problematic beliefs that puts you in an uncomfortable bind.

There is an important difference between tolerating something and supporting it. I'll tolerate the transqueerMuslimplantkins as in I won't seek laws to single them out for punishment. But I am under no ethical duty to offer them support beyond what they may require as human beings. Anything above and beyond that must be at the individual discretion, and if I continue to cut my grass anyway and a congregation of traditional Muslims won't accept the transqueer into a mosque, this isn't an injustice or harmful.

This. You can't eliminate gender roles entirely without force, so if that's not what they're trying to accomplish, then what are they trying to say?

If you're willing to respect the traditions of others, where's the conflict here?

 

[UltimateApathy]

A - I'm probably older than you.

B - You place too much importance on superficialities.

A - You're getting your grade 10, laddie.

B - If you think showmanship is a superficiality in performance art, you'd be better off sticking to pigeon racing as a hobby, sonny.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Something more appropriate to the subject matter and general mood, themes, and outlook of the genre, little chap. T-shirts and jeans are for teenage kids going to the mall, FFS.

You've completely ignored the second part of my post there, sport. Death Metal has always been jeans and tshirts. Should all death metal bands start wearing grim reaper outfits on stage because some symphonic cheese loving uberdouche starts moaning about "showmanship" on a message board? I think not, fruitycakes.

 

[tagradh]

Something more appropriate to the subject matter and general mood, themes, and outlook of the genre, little chap. T-shirts and jeans are for teenage kids going to the mall, FFS.

This is hilarious.

And stupid.

And fucking pathetic.

 

[Onder]

This is hilarious.

And stupid.

And fucking pathetic.

Nice description of UltimateApathy.

 

[mutantllama]

T-shirts and jeans are for teenage kids going to the mall, FFS.

 

[UltimateApathy]

Death Metal has always been jeans and tshirts.

All the better to appeal to their teenage kid fanbase, no doubt.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

UA, I'm curious, what Death metal do you listen to?

 

[Kara-Shehr]

I don't think I care for these islamic sympathizing, feminist, politically correct, self indulgent, my shit doesn't stink, holier than thou multicultural hipster douche cunts that seem to be roaming around causing a muck these days. Apparently everyone who disagrees with them on politics or anything for that matter is a misogynistic, uneducated, culturally insensitive nazi fascist rapist baby killing war criminal who thinks literally every American citizen is guilty of mass genocide and the middle east is a happy fun place full of pink bunnies that hop around giving everyone free candy while whistling fucking dixy and that Islam has literally no connection whatsoever to ISIS or any of the insane shit that goes on in the middle east or other muslim dominated countries. A group of people that think literally every problem in the world can be put squarely on the shoulders of the U.S.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

An asteroid would really take the load off huh

 

[The Butt]

A - You're getting your grade 10, laddie.

B - If you think showmanship is a superficiality in performance art, you'd be better off sticking to pigeon racing as a hobby, sonny.

A - Its a line from a show, you inbred moron. Besides, you seem like you are 16 or something dude.

B - One can exhibit showmanship without needing to rely on superficial fashion statements.

 

[Satanstoenail]

All the better to appeal to their teenage kid fanbase, no doubt.

Oh yes bring on the grim reaper outfits. Sure to appeal to all the adults.

 

[Dak]

 

[Onder]

All the better to appeal to their teenage kid fanbase, no doubt.

What do you wear?

 

[Nephilim96]

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