UFOs

[Glenn Fricker]

Don't tell me that all we know now is all there is to know, come on!

I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. All I'm saying is prove otherwise.

I do agree that the odds say that there is probably life out there. I hope there is. But interstellar travel? In a practical sense? The math doesn't add up.

 

[Radd]

You are aware that an individual galaxy contains perhaps hundreds of billions of stars, each of which potentially a part of a simple solar system such as our own? To say that "many have their own sun" is a gross understatement.

Just wanted to point that out.

Yeah. I have heard of sunless solar systems and thought they existed. Maybe what I heard/saw was an example of a possibility, I can't recall.

 

[STINNETT]

Yeah. I have heard of sunless solar systems and thought they existed. Maybe what I heard/saw was an example of a possibility, I can't recall.

I suppose it must be possible for a grouping of celestial bodies to be in orbit around some supermassive object without that object being a star, just not likely I would imagine. Any supermassive object you find was probably a star at one point anyway.
My point was simply that a galaxy contains, very likely, hundreds of billions of "suns" - each one potentially orbited by it's own solar system within which the potential for life springing forth must exist.

Factor in the billions of galaxies and suddenly, even against incomprehensible odds, life becomes basically inevitable.

 

[Unavailable]

I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. All I'm saying is prove otherwise.

I do agree that the odds say that there is probably life out there. I hope there is. But interstellar travel? In a practical sense? The math doesn't add up.

I believe what he is saying is, despite math showing an improbability in interstellar travel, there may be much more complex lifeforms out there that are advanced beyond human comprehension. Thus, they would have the ability to achieve the unimagineable/"impossible".

I don't think human intelligence is anywhere near that level of dexterity, and you, nor I, nor anyone else will, for a long time, be able to imagine what could be going on out there.

 

[JBroll]

Then find them and give me a good reason to never have to think about relativity again.

I'm dead fucking serious.

Just because it could exist doesn't mean it does or that it should.

What's being requested is proof - without proof you're saying nothing.

Jeff

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

I don't think human intelligence is anywhere near that level of dexterity, and you, nor I, nor anyone else will, for a long time, be able to imagine what could be going on out there.

Absolutely. 10,000 years from now we'll be a lot smarter and look back at today's Humans in the same way we look back at so called cavemen of 10,000 years ago, don't you think?

Perhaps at that point we'll no longer be animals and will have matured to a point where we are considered "socially acceptable" to these high-ranking ET's. Maybe when they see we're smart enough to not buy boy band records they'll stop abducting us and start partying with us and writing Meshuggah songs for us.

 

[J the TyranT]

They may begin as blasphemies but they soon gather evidence and begin working with other great truths. Those were just pulled out of people's asses.

Jeff

I could say "dont be a narrow minded ass" but, that'd be lost on you.

Point is... there were times we werent flying in supersonic jets, either, hoss...

how many iPods were they jamming on during the black plague?

Im of the sort that finds it useless to vehemently deny pretty much anything.

The existence of God, or the absence of... nobody knows SHIT... and thats the bottom line.

We still dont even know what's really going on in our deeper oceans, how the fuck can anybody expect to know for sure what happens in the stars?

 

[Radd]

If you haven't already, check out these 2 movies:

Communion (Christopher Walken)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitley_Strieber

Fire in the Sky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_in_the_sky

The 2 best alien encounter movies ever imo.
Both Nonfiction. (well supposedly)

Love these movies.

 

[JBroll]

I could say "dont be a narrow minded ass" but, that'd be lost on you.

Point is... there were times we werent flying in supersonic jets, either, hoss...

how many iPods were they jamming on during the black plague?

Im of the sort that finds it useless to vehemently deny pretty much anything.

The existence of God, or the absence of... nobody knows SHIT... and thats the bottom line.

We still dont even know what's really going on in our deeper oceans, how the fuck can anybody expect to know for sure what happens in the stars?

A difference is that we never had to deal with a very extensive theory of the basic function of spacetime that ruled out supersonic jets. I'm not vehemently denying anything, and I'm not sure where you're getting that impression - I'm just saying that without actual evidence things like this aren't too useful. I'd love to see time travel and all that fun stuff, but... while some people are jacking off to how smart their readers will think they are when they very thinly veil magic behind big words that mean nothing, others are actually exploring the nature of the universe we live in with every moment of their lives, and one of those two groups is much more useful. It's the second group that fights disease and gives us new toys, and I get annoyed when people get so worked up about science fiction when real science is being ignored by the majority of the population. And I do appreciate good science fiction... I just think 'oh, I got anal probed by ET' once is bullshit when we could be working on 'hmm, something on Mars is poking around in funny ways' and actually getting something done while fulfilling the same desire for a completely different future.

Jeff

 

[Unavailable]

What's being requested is proof - without proof you're saying nothing.

If that was directed towards my statement, yes, I am saying something. I'm not trying to prove anything, but I'm saying there's no point to denying/confirming it when nobody truly knows.

It's just interesting to think that maybe we're not alone on our tiny ball of molten rock.

 

[JBroll]

I don't disagree with the second statement. What I am saying is that there's much more to do than just speculate. I hope you're right.

But I was directing that last post more at J, who seems to have gotten a very bizarre impression of me and who seems to enjoy being a condescending prick and misreading what I'm saying instead of actually saying anything useful.

Jeff

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

Absolutely. 10,000 years from now we'll be a lot smarter

Or extinct...

 

[LSD-Studio]

Then find them and give me a good reason to never have to think about relativity again.

I'm dead fucking serious.

Just because it could exist doesn't mean it does or that it should.

What's being requested is proof - without proof you're saying nothing.

Jeff

nice to see that I don't have to get entangled in this

I studied physics myself a couple of years back (university), so I know a bit of the deal...

I always avoid these kind of dicussions cause for a discussion you have to use the same vocabulary/language....

it's not possible in this case, it's like religious discussions, you (we) are for example using the term "proof/evidence" in a very clearly defined manner.

in physics these terms are even more strict than in lets say justice and court, meaning if "there is proof" there is NO FUCKING WAY you can argument against it, if you try it just makes you look like a moron.
that's why duscussing often gives us a headache, we use those terms that way and thus see everyone trying to argue a bit of..hmm...let's say-...whatever.

other ppl use these words differently or seem to confuse these terms with "think so/ heave heard/have been told" so we're basically using completely different vocabulary and a discussion is not possible...

it's always fun when sitting in a pub tho, lol.

but seriusly, I like discussing that shit in the real world (had a nice 3-4 hour conversation with Martin (Sabbat) in Wacken about physics...fun guy with actually something to say).

 

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[F.E.T]

The NASA and the ESA have predicted that there will be proof of intelligent lifeforms in space within 15-20 years, by setting up intermediary stations on other planets allowing to bypass the effects of atmosphere, gravity etc.
Our form of life is also only thousands of years old… Now compare that to the billions of lightyears in space… Taking these two things into account, there is a greater chance of winning the lottery everyday than encountering someone from outer space.
Also, no theory is complete. But right now there´s talk about a physicist (Australian I believe?) that might be able to unify different elements of physics that are disassociated. Now, this might be a hoax OR the biggest breakthrough of all times.

 

[dreamcatcher]

Nothing special here, it happens, not all satellites are geostationary. Now if you tell me it changed directions very quickly that's something else...

Seemed awfully damn fast, though.

 

[abyssofdreams]

My hobby for years now is the whole Alien/UFO phenomena.
I've read/listened/viewed hundreds of stories and I've come to the following conclusions
(and please don't get offended by them ;-))

- They are here
- They are on the moon
- They work with the government
- They are not evil
- The government covers them up
- No person on this planet has ever been "abducted" by aliens
- They do not look like greys/reptilians, instead they look like us, actually no reptilians/greys really exist
- Everything the media reports about UFOs and stuff is 100% bullshit, however there are some reliable sources, e.g. Stanton Friedman, David Flynn...

and finally I believe there will be disclosure within the next few years as people are getting to be more open-minded and ready for such news.

 

[abyssofdreams]

Now really ? How is that a fact ?

The most "advanced/intelligent" lifeform that has been discovered to date is some sort of "green slime" on planets, don't know the english term for it, look it up if you want to.

 

[abyssofdreams]

Oh and BTW, worm holes can be produced in theory, however it needs heaps of darkmatter which doesn't exist naturally on this planet.

And about that "visits from the future"-thingy, how would you know?
I certainly wouldn't notice if someone would visit from the future and shake my hand unless he told me.
Then again... I wouldn't believe him.
Anybody seen "12 Monkeys"?

 

[Stillborn]

The most "advanced/intelligent" lifeform that has been discovered to date is some sort of "green slime" on planets, don't know the english term for it, look it up if you want to.

Yeah, I think I will look for advanced/intelligent green slime... Doesn't sound like something that's been made up at all.

Long live Xenu ! (Or is he evil ? if he is then "Death to Xenu !")