UFOs

[Radd]

Below are my conclusions in response to yours plus other various stuff.

My hobby for years now is the whole Alien/UFO phenomena.
I've read/listened/viewed hundreds of stories and I've come to the following conclusions
(and please don't get offended by them ;-))

- They are here (Yes. In both alien and human form)
- They are on the moon (The dark side of the moon supposedly. I haven't heard much about that and have serious doubts for that reason and because it "appears" to be lifeless, no water, no air.)
- They work with the government (Yes. With technology such as space craft design)
- They are not evil (Mostly but there are some among different races with different agendas)
- The government covers them up (Big Yes)
- No person on this planet has ever been "abducted" by aliens

(I don't know how you came up with this. I don't know the numbers but its gotta be in the thousands of claims of abductions by ppl who swear it was real and not a dream. Some of which are abducted through out their life. Supposedly the aliens may put a tiny tracking device in your body. They'll collect semen and eggs and mix them with their own to create their own hybrid race possibly because their own race is dying. A possible Atlantis connection there. See below.)

- They do not look like greys/reptilians, instead they look like us, actually no reptilians/greys really exist
(many races exist including humanoids. The grays and humanoids work together side by side and are the most common among abductions. My guess is that the humanoids were created by the grays as part of their hybrid plans.)

- Everything the media reports about UFOs and stuff is 100% bullshit, however there are some reliable sources, e.g. Stanton Friedman, David Flynn...
(If you're talking about sci-fi movies and hollywood then Yeah, but a lot of my info comes from programs which include Stanton Friedman. He's all over this stuff.)

and finally I believe there will be disclosure within the next few years as people are getting to be more open-minded and ready for such news.

(Well, December 21st 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar. Some think the world will end. Some think nothing will change. Some think it will be the beginning of a new world..)

Also...
Some ppl believe...

that there is a space ship under the Sphinx in Egypt.

that the Atlantians created creatures that are combinations of others like say a woman's head on a lion's body (sphinx) or something.

that they used to live on Mars but had to escape because of the changing atmosphere.

that Atlantis is at or near the location of the Bermuda Triangle.

that it used to be a huge populated city with a giant crystal that powered ground and air vehicles.

that perhaps the crystal is the cause of the missing planes and boats.

that there are underwater UFO bases in various places like off the coast of Florida and Califonia. There have been many sightings of UFOs going into and coming out of oceans.

that the Star of Bethlehem was actually a UFO.

 

[Radd]

Oh and BTW, worm holes can be produced in theory, however it needs heaps of darkmatter which doesn't exist naturally on this planet.

But it does in space.

 

[abyssofdreams]

Hey Radd, according to 2012 you should consider watching the videos of David Flynn on Youtube if you don't know him already.
Really the best lecture I've seen ever. So detailed and EVERYTHING based on facts, he does not speculate, just collect.

Here's a start:

 

[abyssofdreams]

I'm currently totally into that CARET/PACL Drone hype.
Did anyone catch up on that topic?
The documents Isaac posted that day are all over the net.

 

[Radd]

Hey Radd, according to 2012 you should consider watching the videos of David Flynn on Youtube if you don't know him already.
Really the best lecture I've seen ever. So detailed and EVERYTHING based on facts, he does not speculate, just collect.

I watched them all kind of half paying attention and they didn't do much for me. Some of it was kind of interesting like the face on mars possibly being half human and half lion and the crop circle with the code but I don't think I believe it. I've pretty much dismissed crop circles since those 2 old English blokes confessed to making them and I've have since seen how it's easily done. This particular one looks exceptionally detailed. Excellent artwork whether by human or alien and the code and everything pointing at Roswell 1947 adds a brilliant touch.

It seemed like there were many things that he was kind of stretching for and the whole time I kept thinking that you can justify anything when you want to but also thinking about how everything and everyone are all connected in some way.

I never heard of that drone craft. I'm looking into it now. It sounds like a military produced craft that may be using ufo technology that they got from reverse engineering crashed crafts like the one in Roswell.
Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[J the TyranT]

A difference is that we never had to deal with a very extensive theory of the basic function of spacetime that ruled out supersonic jets. I'm not vehemently denying anything, and I'm not sure where you're getting that impression - I'm just saying that without actual evidence things like this aren't too useful. I'd love to see time travel and all that fun stuff, but... while some people are jacking off to how smart their readers will think they are when they very thinly veil magic behind big words that mean nothing, others are actually exploring the nature of the universe we live in with every moment of their lives, and one of those two groups is much more useful. It's the second group that fights disease and gives us new toys, and I get annoyed when people get so worked up about science fiction when real science is being ignored by the majority of the population. And I do appreciate good science fiction... I just think 'oh, I got anal probed by ET' once is bullshit when we could be working on 'hmm, something on Mars is poking around in funny ways' and actually getting something done while fulfilling the same desire for a completely different future.

Jeff

alright man, my bad.

Guess I had something pegged wrong on ya.

 

[JBroll]

Yeah, no hard feelings, this is just the kind of thing where we run into a lot of the same words meaning different things depending on where people come from. Fuck language.

Jeff

 

[J the TyranT]

we should get this guy in on this conversation:

 

[abyssofdreams]

Christopher Walken?

 

[devouredremains]

Whats everyones feelings on "ufo's" depicted in classical works of art?

 

[Radd]

Christopher Walken?

Thats Peter Tagtgren:

 

[abyssofdreams]

I know, nevermind

 

[Radd]

I know, nevermind

I wondered if you were joking. Sorry about that.

 

[Radd]

Whats everyones feelings on "ufo's" depicted in classical works of art?

It's interesting to see them in religious paintings that mark specific major events. I can believe that the earth has been visited since biblical times.

I came up with a crazy theory last year (not to be taken seriously) that the ufos in biblical paintings are designed and operated by us in the future where time travel has been invented and we've gone back to witness first hand these historical events but then one might say that in order for us to go back to those events, we would have had to known about them therefore they would have happened already before the invention of time travel which is the case currently but what if going back in time causes a "do over" type effect changing the course of time; past, present, future? This is where I go and my brain starts to putter out as something tells me it still wouldn't make sense and I try and figure it out.

I think JBroll wants to shoot me now.

Here's some examples of those paintings I found after doing a quick google search if anyone is interested:

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0707/sacredart.html

 

[Radd]

I'm currently totally into that CARET/PACL Drone hype.
Did anyone catch up on that topic?
The documents Isaac posted that day are all over the net.

I guess you mean this:
http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

I just checked it out. Really interesting. Wow!

A brief summary for anyone interested who hasn't heard about it:
Someone that worked for the military studying alien artifacts like what seems to be part of a generator that controls a ufo's anti-gravity and is operational by a series of symbols. Photo copys of documents and parts are shown in the links on the right.

 

[Jackal_Strain]

I'm not backing this up by any facts or evidence, bt my personal belief is this.

We live on earth. Earth is just one plant in our solar system. there are probably hundred of billions of solar systems in our galaxy. Likewise it's probaly hundred of billions of galaxies out there... could be more... don't know.
I just think that it's an awful waste of space if earth's the only habitable planet supporting life in the universe.

my 0.2 cents.

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

I just think that it's an awful waste of space if earth's the only habitable planet supporting life in the universe.

Seen or read "Contact" recently?

 

[Jackal_Strain]

Yeah actuallly! I knew I had that quote from somewhere

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

One of my all time favorite movie. Jodie Foster is amazing in it (as always)!

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Love that movie.