Unblack Metal

[Carcassian]

I still prefer Christian Black metal to Unblack. Which manages, if anything, to sound even gayer.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

It doesn't work though because Satanists and those people have a monopoly on the color black meaning NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED!!1!!

(yeah I don't get it either but I don't want to argue anymore)

 

[skeptik]

I prefer the association of black = anti-submission or something less precise since there are many bands playing Black Metal that do not praise Satan (either the mythical or LaVeyan). Black Metal is not simply anti-Christian, but, being that Christianity is such a major player in our society, it tends to get the lion's share of the attention. You don't necessarily have to be anti-Christian to play Black Metal, but you can't be Christian and hail Christian ideals which subvert the individual in favor of subordination to some vast, defeatist divine will, as that position is completely at odds with the principles of the genre, and this is why Unblack Metal has arisen, to use the same (or similar) aesthetics of Black Metal to communicate a different message.

 

[Carcassian]

O Rly ?

 

[skeptik]

4 rlz

 

[AchrisK]

The term was created by Horde, so it certainly isn't derogatory in origin. And I've never heard it used as such, more things like christcore. Christian black doesn't work for reasons previously discussed.

The term was created by Horde but was not meant to name a genre. It was an album title. I can see, however, how people could run with that. I have always hated the term as a genre definer, but it appears it may have some merit. I still see the genres divided almost purely by musical aesthetic, though.

 

[Carcassian]

^ Exact-a-mundo.

 

[zoidberg]

i thought this was a thread dedicated to forms of metal that werent black metal but now i learn that unblack metal means it is christian black metal? like you can understand a great deal of the lyrics anyways!

 

[thisisaformicatable]

The term was created by Horde but was not meant to name a genre. It was an album title. I can see, however, how people could run with that.

That's where many genres get their names. Death metal, black metal, dark metal, crust... Hardly unusual or diminishing of the term's usefulness.

 

[AchrisK]

That's where many genres get their names. Death metal, black metal, dark metal, crust... Hardly unusual or diminishing of the term's usefulness.

Very true! Had not considered that. Excellent point.

 

[MURAI]

Although many people like to use the label "black metal" to describe the music aesthetic only, I know many members see black metal as being defined by more than just the music. So, in respect for the latter group, I am starting a new thread to discuss unblack metal. Before coming here I really disliked the term unblack. I was fine with it as part of the Horde album title (Hellig Usvart = Holy Unblack), but I thought it was silly to try to make a genre out of it. But based on the opinions of people here, I am contemplating the validity of the term.

UNBLACK

Haven't heard of it untill now.

 

[skeptik]

Way to jump in late there tiger.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Haven't heard of it untill now.

Consider yourself privledged.

 

[AchrisK]

Consider yourself privledged.

cONSIDER YOURSELF A TOOL

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

cONSIDER YOURSELF A TOOL

YOU FAIL AT THE INTERNET!

 

[skeptik]

caps lock imo

 

[AchrisK]

caps lock imo

yup

 

[anonymousnick2001]

I guess it all depends on the depth of music's impact upon the listener. Music's a big part of my life, but the whole "it's like, art, man" viewpoint is kind of hokey to me (don't get me started on painters or hipster kids). I dunno...it's all just black metal to me...

Agree to disagree!

 

[skeptik]

All music is a form of art, broseph.

 

[Alter]

If it sounds like black metal then its black metal.