Trevoire520
Member
Nah I think I'm still on the first one that came out as I'd heard of others having trouble with the updates.
VCC Released
- Thread starter Pedro Teixeira
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LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
It would be nice to have other inputs from the last release since it's supposed to work better, to see how it really comes. I've been quite interested in VCC but if it doesn't solve its problem I won't buy it now.
avrinder
Member
freezing issue and others reported are fixed in the most recent update which is due out Monday.. It fixes pretty much all the remaining bugs that have been reported. The sound change in using the desk models (assuming they are used on at least 16 channels and on the master fader) is very obvious to me.. I will never mix ITB without them.. ITB sounds stale and boring to me now. Check out these demos to hear it in action:
http://www.slatedigital.com/vccdemos/
http://www.slatedigital.com/vccdemos/
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
I feel wrong for liking the first demo song. It's so cheesy but I like it 
Massive difference BTW. Bypassed, the snare does not sound glued to the rest of the mix. I'm also impressed at how the snare shines with the trident. The neve makes the kick pretty warm. No surprise you cannot get back to ITB without console emulation after that.
I wish we could implement this natively into a DAW without having to put it in inserts. So that any new track or send would incorporate the plugin on a hidden level.
EDIT : the trident makes everything shine, it makes everything clearer. I'm impressed by it, on this song it's a nice choice.
EDIT2: even bigger difference between the different consoles can be heard in the piano on the right of the mix in the end. Some consoles hides them more and glue them to the guitars while some others put them upfront of the mix.
Massive difference BTW. Bypassed, the snare does not sound glued to the rest of the mix. I'm also impressed at how the snare shines with the trident. The neve makes the kick pretty warm. No surprise you cannot get back to ITB without console emulation after that.
I wish we could implement this natively into a DAW without having to put it in inserts. So that any new track or send would incorporate the plugin on a hidden level.
EDIT : the trident makes everything shine, it makes everything clearer. I'm impressed by it, on this song it's a nice choice.
EDIT2: even bigger difference between the different consoles can be heard in the piano on the right of the mix in the end. Some consoles hides them more and glue them to the guitars while some others put them upfront of the mix.
the demos again sound very convincing but when i load up VCC
to any track here, there is no difference at all, WTF?
any idea?
cheers
S.
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
You mean like HEAT in Pro Tools HD?
I didn't know it was like that. That's awesome actually.
Same with the possibility to choose which plugin, and why not which FX chain, would be neat. I wonder if it's or will be possible in Reaper with some tweaking. I think it would be easy to implement, it's just auto-inserting a plug and not showing it directly in the mixer. I'd love to have a console sim on each track or send and a tape sim on the masterbus, all hidden with a button on the affected tracks to access their GUI.
(fait toujours bizarre de te parler en anglais sur le forum quand je sais que tu parles la langue de molière aha)
I have a question about VCC : do you need a trim plugin before it to use it at best (to hit 0 or -18dBFS) or does the VCC drive controls makes it useless ?
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
You can use the VCC input control to set the levels if needed (I think it has 6db of +/- gain), or use a trim plugin before if it's not loud enough.
so the level stays the same no matter how much i turn up the gain?
i'Ve read such a thing in the latest manual IIRC but not sure if it's exactly this.
yet, even if there is no raise in volume and even if the effect is really really SUBTLE, it should be audible when i put up 4 instances in a chain IMHO.
cheers
S.
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
Are you using the Virtual Channels or the Virtual Mix Buss? The virtual Mix Buss only has a Drive control (no volume change), but the others have the same Drive control plus Input levels, which indeed change the loudness of the track.
If you want to check if it's doing something to your sound or not, duplicate your track, put a Virtual Channel on the first one of them, even with all values to 0 (default), and revert the phase on the second one (no VCC there). If you get no sound at all, then it's not doing anything to the sound. But keep the Input value to 0 to check out that phase thing of course.
If you want to check if it's doing something to your sound or not, duplicate your track, put a Virtual Channel on the first one of them, even with all values to 0 (default), and revert the phase on the second one (no VCC there). If you get no sound at all, then it's not doing anything to the sound. But keep the Input value to 0 to check out that phase thing of course.
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
Or try listening to a kick drum for instance, if you hear no difference between the Neve and the SSL then there is something wrong indeed
LeSedna
Mat or Mateo
@Brett
did a quick test, with VCC on the insert and the plugin bypassed and un-bypassed...sounds all the same to me.
fliping the phase tells me that there is something going on as i do not get complete silence, it's very minimal though.
that's where i'm stuck, it's so minimal and everybody hears a difference, guess i'm just really deaf!
@LeSedna
did the same thing with the sanre as written above, same result...i am deaf!
Snare RAW
Snare Brit
Snare Tri
sounds all the same to me
cheers
S.
did a quick test, with VCC on the insert and the plugin bypassed and un-bypassed...sounds all the same to me.
fliping the phase tells me that there is something going on as i do not get complete silence, it's very minimal though.
that's where i'm stuck, it's so minimal and everybody hears a difference, guess i'm just really deaf!
@LeSedna
did the same thing with the sanre as written above, same result...i am deaf!
Snare RAW
Snare Brit
Snare Tri
sounds all the same to me
cheers
S.
gabriel g.
Member
on the snare samples I dont hear a difference neither.
But I am only with headphones right now.
Did you tried it on a full mix on everything. Every guitar track, every drum track and so on.
And did you put the plugin AFTER the triggering software
But I am only with headphones right now.
Did you tried it on a full mix on everything. Every guitar track, every drum track and so on.
And did you put the plugin AFTER the triggering software
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
Do you have a good monitoring system? Maybe it's the problem and not your ears. (I'm on a laptop right now so there's no way I will even try to hear the difference)
