Viva Emptiness indeed...
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yv
wears vegetables
None_So_Vile said:
That just makes you a sycophant.
Y'see, I posted about KATATONIA, not anyone here. I didnt get personal with anyone here, and yet so many people take what i say personally. This says more about them than me.
and for the record, it aint just me who thinks the nu- album is a bit nu-metal. Jonas even mentioned it himself in an interview, how people keep saying it about the new album...notice that they didnt before?
Ðali
Jesus Saves!
taranis said:
1. You could know that you will make people furious when you piss on Katatonia on a Katatonia fan-forum..
2. Why did you even post this topic? You don't like the album.. Then go listnen to something else and stop whining..
3. Katatonia sounds like Linkin Park ?!?!
Thanatopsis123
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Other than the Linkin Park and Opeth bit, I agree with taranis.
How can he hear nu-metal in the new release? How can you NOT? Either your love for the band has you hearing it through love speakers (yes, as opposed to seeing through love goggles ) or you hear it and simply don't want to admit Katatonia went that route. Perhaps you just don't want to admit you like the nu-metal sound so you just persist that it is not?
Frankly I'm only a fan of Katatonia from Sound of Decay on back. But when I decided to check out Viva Crappiness I was simply astonished at what I'd heard.
How can he hear nu-metal in the new release? How can you NOT? Either your love for the band has you hearing it through love speakers (yes, as opposed to seeing through love goggles
) or you hear it and simply don't want to admit Katatonia went that route. Perhaps you just don't want to admit you like the nu-metal sound so you just persist that it is not?Frankly I'm only a fan of Katatonia from Sound of Decay on back. But when I decided to check out Viva Crappiness I was simply astonished at what I'd heard.
no country for old wainds
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Really? Then it looks like nu-metal is actually an excellent genre. I'll go out and give Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park another listen, because if they're the same calibur as Viva Emptiness, nu-metal is fucking great. And the bands playing it are very skilled too. Cool! Pah, I spit in the face of you. Nu-metal must own most crappy 'proper' metal!
yv
wears vegetables
Anarkissed
BOK CHOY!!!
Categorisation sucks. The only reason i use it is to give people a general view of the music i listen too. People begin to say 'oh no this music has a bit of nu-metal in this' or 'dear me this sounds like [whatever]', it becomes ridiculous. Music is music, like it or not, bands can do what they want.
Edit: ooo. this is my first post in the Katatonia forum, yay
Edit: ooo. this is my first post in the Katatonia forum, yay
yv
wears vegetables
It's a pretty easy cop-out to say that you don't like Viva Emptiness because it sounds nu-metal. It's worth understanding what the stigma of nu-metal means. Obviously, there's the whole rap-core element that is a bit hard for some to digest (I personally don't care for it), but that doesn't apply here because Katatonia don't do any of that. And hey, a lot of nu-metal songs are quite catchy. I mean, they're supposed to be, that's why they run up the charts and earn record companies millions, but being catchy has never been a bad thing. I think that what chaps my ass the most about "nu-metal" is the sheer contrivance of it all. There's so much prefabricated sorrow and prefabricated angst. My ears know what they're being fed and I don't like being fed a lie. That said, I love Viva Emptiness, regardless of what genre(s) the music resembles. It's fairly apparent that Katatonia play music because they have to, it's what their lives demand of them. And they sound completely sincere in every action. I think that Jonas sings from personal feelings and circumstances, not just putting on a show to meet the emotional criteria of a Katatonia disc. If someone wants to dismiss this band because they can build a mental bridge from Katatonia's higher ground to the lower wastes of nu-metal, so be it, but it's their loss.
BarronBlod
Member
Getting pretty sick of these nu-metal discussions! So what is nu-metal besides Linkin Park and Slimp Bizkit to you guys? Evanescene, Kid Rock, P.O.D, KoRn and all those other sell-outs? Deftones? I hope not. To me "nu-metal" is a term of abuse.
But I guess wheter you think VE is nu-metal or not, depends on your view of what the genre really is and which bands fall under that category. Personally i think VE is awesome AND anything but nu-metal. Comparing them with ridiculous bands such as Linkin Park is a fucking insult to the band.
But I guess wheter you think VE is nu-metal or not, depends on your view of what the genre really is and which bands fall under that category. Personally i think VE is awesome AND anything but nu-metal. Comparing them with ridiculous bands such as Linkin Park is a fucking insult to the band.
Shogunautz
SETH
taranis said:
I think you chose the wrong place for this complete and utter blasphemy! If you were in a room full of all the people in this forum, you would have been beaten into an inch of your fucking pathetic life, but not let you die. Then you would have all your limbs cut off with the most rusty chainsaw anyone can find. This would be followed by the complete burning of all your flesh, even the severed limbs. After that, pictures would have been taken and sent to all of the most evil black metal bands in the world so they can use it for album art. And then, after all that, we'd have the ordasity to put Viva Emptiness on LOOP in your CD player with headphones on your ears!
What are you doing in this forum anyways?
Shogunautz
SETH
Man, shogun-nutz and the oracle deist are quite excitable arent they?
"if I was here now and you said that to me i'd get REALLY angry and i'd really hurt you bad by punching and then i'd beat you with my willy, and then i'd jump on your head, and then i'd stab with a BIG BIG knife. Then i'd get Mike Tyson to come down and shoot you with a machine gun. But still not kill so you'd be in real agony. then i'd set a lion on you to eat your legs, then cauterise the wounds so that you stay alive, but only just. Then i'd move the lion out of there and splash water in your face in a really annoying way and shove some ants down your japs-eye. Then i'd get my true revenge by making you listen to a dodgy album by a band that used to be good as you die so you go in a really ironic fashion."
Scary stuff indeed.
get out much?
"if I was here now and you said that to me i'd get REALLY angry and i'd really hurt you bad by punching and then i'd beat you with my willy, and then i'd jump on your head, and then i'd stab with a BIG BIG knife. Then i'd get Mike Tyson to come down and shoot you with a machine gun. But still not kill so you'd be in real agony. then i'd set a lion on you to eat your legs, then cauterise the wounds so that you stay alive, but only just. Then i'd move the lion out of there and splash water in your face in a really annoying way and shove some ants down your japs-eye. Then i'd get my true revenge by making you listen to a dodgy album by a band that used to be good as you die so you go in a really ironic fashion."
Scary stuff indeed.
get out much?
oh yeah, i forgot to add that the reason i am on this board is because i'm a fan of the band. There are people on here that like less of Katatonias stuff than i do.
Either way, I still have the right to express my opinion, whether you like it or not. I dont remember criticising you in any way, shape or form.
Either way, I still have the right to express my opinion, whether you like it or not. I dont remember criticising you in any way, shape or form.
Shogunautz
SETH
Well I am glad that you find it funny because it was an exaggeration of the way all of us feel about that comment. No one (I hope) wants to kill you over what you said but it is an opinion best left for another message board! Try to talk only about the positive things as we are here to support the band and talk shit about music, have laughs, and sometimes "heated" debates. Me and you, there are no problems between us, and I am sure that I speak for everyone else here. Just try not to trash the band on their own site. Thank you!
I have actually already done this, i 'm happy to post about what i like about the band. I dont see why this shouldnt be the place to discuss what i dont like about the band. I love all the stuff from the previous albums, and the new album isnt so bad, but i do think some of the lyrics are a bit wank and their delivery just doesnt make them sound as desolate and awesome as the previous albums. his singing has improved by miles though.
OracleDeist
LORD IAN
You have less place on this board than i do.
Oracle you only think you would. I know that you wouldnt because if that's your reaction everytime someone disagrees with your point of view or says something you dont like then youre probably already in prison. If not physically then at least mentally.
How do you handle everyday life?
OracleDeist said:
Oracle you only think you would. I know that you wouldnt because if that's your reaction everytime someone disagrees with your point of view or says something you dont like then youre probably already in prison. If not physically then at least mentally.
How do you handle everyday life?
