To Heartless_Name(can I call you Joe?) : I was trolling about Garm being better than Vortex. Even if I prefer Garm, Vortex remains an incredible vocalist with such power, I REALLY got scared first time I heard Dimmu's Progenies live, I never expected him to have such power in his voice.
Yes, you can call me Joe. And
I agree, his voice live is really great, I was worried that it wouldn't be as good and then I would have been really disappointed but luckily that was not the case. Every Dimmu Show I've been to I have always been on the gate right in front of him the entire show.
About Borknagar, I can't compare. Both vocalists era are so different, to each his favorite. I think "The Olden Domain" is their best, but again, Vortex era was really good, so is the Vintersorg era.
Yeah, that is true... they all have a different sound and did well so it depends on your tastes... I just think that more black metal fans tend to prefer Garm/the earlier stuff and everyone else loves Vortex/Vintersorg. In my opinion, Empiricism is Borknagar's best CD, but TAC is my personal favourite.
About Arcturus, I think that Vortex is awesome on his songs and Garm on his. Garm wouldnt sing "The Chaos Path" as well as Vortex and vice-versa.
Well, I don't know, on the Shipwrecked in Oslo DVD Simen sings a few Garm-era songs and does incredibly well, so much so that I actually prefer them to the studio version (Ad Absurdum, Nightmare Heaven, etc). But that is just a personal thing I guess. I can't picture Garm singing Evacuation Code Deciphered or Chaos Path and doing well
And I don't think Garm's voice is fake. Sure, it wouldnt sound as good as the album version because it is so much re-worked and stuff, but until we don't hear new stuff from him(that old ulver video doesnt count, believe me) we can't really judge. But I gotta agree that live Simen is awesome and Garm would look ridiculous next to him.
When I said fake, I meant like you said, he edits it too much in the studio and adds so much to make it sound a certain way. I am sure he can sing, just not as good as he portrays his voice on the CDs.
(BTW rumors(lol) says that Garm singed live in 2004 with The Gathering, can you believe it? Lawl...) /r/ proofs nao
There's always those rumours, and never any proof. It's not really fair for him to create music then never perform it and give bullshit reasons as why he doesn't... I think I remember he said "Music is a personal thing, and I like people to enjoy it at home" or some bullshit. I think it's an ignorant thing to make music people love then never play it for them live, concerts are a big part of people's lives. Plus he's just being stupid by losing out on a lot of money, he has a huge earning potential if he played live. Something is suspicious.
how tall are you? vortex seems like he's a giant
I'm 5'9'', average height... but yeah he is a fucking giant
I agree with you about the music. BM and similar has never been problem for me as a music. I really don't care attention in lyrics in general and I'm not religious person at all. But people who listened it in Finland in 90s were so serious about it. It was more a lifestyle than just music, and I know that they weren't satanist or burning churches, but they certainly knew how to make girls cry (generalization, but I didn't knew any nice BM listener back then all them were more or less assholes). Nowadays it's much more relaxed people can actually listen BM as a music only it doesn't have to be lifestyle and so serious. But also I have to admit that bands appearance means something to me, I'm rather visual person and tend to see things in my mind so if band is not visually appealing to me, music has to be close to epic to get me interested
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I don't know how it's there in Canada but in Finland older folks still consider pretty much all people wearing black leather coats satanist. It all started after those church burnings it was so big thing here. We actually had this "BM is from satan" education in schools :zombie:.
Their music is epic imo, but you can't let old stigma from past events or stupid assholes ruin the music for you, trust me... to be honest, I love metal, but I hate metalheads, they are mostly huge fucking idiots and it embarrasses me. They give us such a bad name sometimes. And as far as old people thinking you worship satan, who gives a fuck what people that ignorant think, unless they are your boss.
I can say that Dimmu came out in the late 90's, and I don't think they were ever even apart of that whole church burning bullshit drama, but they may have gottne lumped in, who knows.
I saw Dimmu live last summer in Sauna Open Air Metal Festival here in my hometown. And it was great at live for sure. It was nice touch from the band that when their set started we got thunder and lightings and when they ended sun started to shine again
That is pretty cool, lucky bastard!
i think vortex is a pretty cool guy, eh hits joe and doesnt afraid of anything
! Nice... tell me what program you used.
i think MetalClint0nLS is a pretty cool guy. eh trolls badly and doesn't afraid of anything.
That he does.
I said 'his worst' cause I like so much more Bork, Arcturus, Lamented Souls and Code than Dimmu.
Yes, I understand.
Garm has a very special voice, as you can hear with Ulver, Borknagar and Arcturus.
Yes, he has a good voice, but when he tries to do his uber-black metal shit I hate it. I really do love his clean singing on Arcturus and Ulver.
BTW, Garm played live with Arcturus once, at 95 for a promotional AHS gig, but I can't find a bootleg. I read an interview once about Garm and he said he doesn't like to sing live, but he's totally capable to do it and I believe him.
I don't believe him, I think he would be like Vintersorg live, only far worse. Missing keys and just being totally off his performance. I think he can sing, but he is just unable to make his songs sound the way they do on the album that is why he doesn't do live shows, that plus the fact he probably can't be bothers to live life on the road for a while. As far as saying he sang live, until I see proof, I won't believe it, I've heard far too many rumours
The Chaos Path is an outstanding song.. well the whole LMI album is incredible but my fav track is Ad Astra... Sverd did on that song something no other keyboardist on black/relatives metal has done. When someone ask me about symphonic (black) metal, I show that song and the listener's mind blows always. The same goes with Star Crossed and The Fall Of Man.
Star Crossed
.. And yes, those songs rule too but I just love the epicness of TCP and it's a nice slow song.
SS has grown on me like no other album and now I think it's majestic like all Arcturus albums, but the soundwise is great/horrible at the same time. I like a lot that dark/spacy atmosphere (SFP, NVR, ECD are awesome on that) but it's hard to hear all and each instruments sometimes, specially the keys. SFP and ECD are incredible on keys, specially ECD. I play some keys too and sometimes is a pain in the ass trying to play that songs with that awful sound.
Yes, it is an incredible CD with shit production, I hate those fucking beeps... and it is a little hard to hear some of the instrument tracks on some songs but I still live SS so much. You know, you're right about the keys and all I can say is, I hope Steinar gets his inspiration back so Arcturus can reform and make a new album!!!!!!!!
I'm waiting for the new Code album and the Bork guest vocals...and the SS remaster!!! I need it!!!
Me too, we should get the first two between November and February so that isn't too far away, no clue when the SS remaster will be done though, I wouldn't expect it for a few years... I would rather see the new Lamented Souls album come out, or his solo work first.
