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[General Zod]

I guess I was a little unclear. We can all talk about why we liked a movie, band, album, etc. without having to share an understanding of WHY we liked it. We can even discuss these differences as opposed to trying to create some kind of pseudo-science of originality/influence/creativity/etc.

Are you studying philosophy this semester?

Zod

 

[Demilich]

No, but my brain hurts. Believe me, this attitude of mine isn't some novelty that I've latched on to at school and am trying to apply to every facet of life. I'm simply voicing my convictions.

I think I should just stick to smoking pot and laughing at dumb tv shows

 

[NAD]

Hey is Neurosis still in this shindig? Cuz I'm listening to them right now thinking how much they rock.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Hey is Neurosis still in this shindig? Cuz I'm listening to them right now thinking how much they rock.

Sloppy Joe's are pretty damn tasty when consumed with a side portion of macaroni n cheese.

 

[Demilich]

I want to download a Neurosis album because a band like that really gives me the impression that they want me to hear a whole album and not just a few tracks.


HOLY FUCK IT'S RAINING LIKE MAD OUTSIDE!

Edit:

Hand of Doom kicks my fucking dick in! BLACK FUCKING SABBATH!!

 

[NAD]

Dude I've never consumed sloppy joe's alongside anything but themselves, but will have to give that a try someday.

Demilich, zat arranged can be... What tracks have you heard and what have you liked? Because yes, they are definitely an album band, even if individual songs are very strong.

 

[Demilich]

I don't even remember what I heard. Definitely part of the last album, and a few assorted tracks. Sounded like good shit.

No rush though, I'm still trying to work that Velvet Underground album into my schedule

 

[Demonspell]

Neurosis was narrowly knocked out by Kreator. I agree that originality, which I think is extremely rare in metal (at least in the strict sense) has to reflect the artist's true emotions and that it depends on one's frame of reference...

 

[SonOfNun]

Note that Opeth17 posts here once every 8 weeks. He's an outsider looking in. He's brand new to metal, and has focused most of his time in one genre: death metal. It's the equivalent of some random stranger overhearing a conversation between lifelong friends and then butting in to say, "ugh, but you can't say this and you can't think that". Blah blah.

I don't know what the fuck this is suppose to be, but ok. I'm a regular until I disagree with everyone. I've actually been here from essentially the beginning and I lurk more than I post. Suffice to say, I know what people reveal about their tastes around here as much as you do.

The fact that I don't post here that often is also a reflection of the fact that no one here really knows a damn thing about what I listen to and the fact that I love death metal does not mean I focus most of my time on it. After all, I only post here every 8 weeks, how would you know?

I come here for the comedy and the occasional good music and philosophical discussion (though they're rare). Not that I know what the argument in this thread is even really about as it's all over the place, but Demilich makes good points about subjectivity and originality.

"ugh, but you can't say this and you can't think that". And this part is just fucking absurd, considering that if you even read the thread I created, the entire point was to open up a philosophical discussion on EVERYTHING about what makes music important to us and had NOTHING to do with my feeling that people shouldn't believe a certain way, aka what the basis of your Ulver thread is.

 

[NAD]

the thread I created, the entire point was to open up a philosophical discussion on EVERYTHING

Somewhere in the middle there's a 400 post run on buggery in case you missed it.

 

[JayKeeley]

I don't know what the fuck this is suppose to be, but ok. I'm a regular until I disagree with everyone. I've actually been here from essentially the beginning and I lurk more than I post. Suffice to say, I know what people reveal about their tastes around here as much as you do.



The fact that I don't post here that often is also a reflection of the fact that no one here really knows a damn thing about what I listen to and the fact that I love death metal does not mean I focus most of my time on it. After all, I only post here every 8 weeks, how would you know?



I come here for the comedy and the occasional good music and philosophical discussion (though they're rare). Not that I know what the argument in this thread is even really about as it's all over the place, but Demilich makes good points about subjectivity and originality.



"ugh, but you can't say this and you can't think that". And this part is just fucking absurd, considering that if you even read the thread I created, the entire point was to open up a philosophical discussion on EVERYTHING about what makes music important to us and had NOTHING to do with my feeling that people shouldn't believe a certain way, aka what the basis of your Ulver thread is.

Haha, I love how this has all turned...considering I'M the one defending opinions against YOU suggesting that people only vote for Iron Maiden through some form of nostalgia and wot not.

If YOU'RE the one that can't accept the fact that people, young and younger , are voting for Iron Maiden etc because they recognize the QUALITY of music then that is totally your problem.

I don't know what else to add.

As for how long you've been here, what the fuck is up with lurking? That does nothing but further my analogy with someone doing nothing more than evesdropping and then jumping in to troll once in a blue moon. Bah.

 

[JayKeeley]

the entire point was to open up a philosophical discussion on EVERYTHING about what makes music important to us and had NOTHING to do with my feeling that people shouldn't believe a certain way, aka what the basis of your Ulver thread is.

Absolute bullshit, and you know it. Unless this is just more trolling because, honestly, right now I can't tell anymore.

 

[JayKeeley]

Actually, I'm always surprised at just how many people here listen to the 'old-school' stuff, considering out of 40 regulars, there are only 5 or so over the age of 30. That's just a reflection of good quality music.

genuine > formulaic / scripted

There is something to be said about authenticity, at least. I would have added this to the "OK GET IN HERE" thread but it's all about homo stuff now.

There is a difference between bands plagiarising other bands and simply STAYING within the same sub-genre -- regardless of how accomplished they are with their level of mimicry -- compared to other bands (innovators) that took a previous style and turned it into something NEW and ORIGINAL.

I think the profile of most here fits that of someone who's comfortable with what they like vs. what they don't like.

FUCK ME I RULE IT.

I see what you're saying, but that argument only holds water in the case of an individual who is completely cut off. If a person had no way to know what is and what isn't original, outside of their own expriences, they could make this mistake. But that's not the case. Between magazines, the net, chatting with people, etc., it's fairly easy to track down the source of a given sound or genre, and thus eliminate most of the subjectivity you speak of. It's not really subjective that Maiden, Metallica and Sabbath are all cornerstones of the genre.

Zod

AND SO DOES ZOD.

 

[Doom]

As for how long you've been here, what the fuck is up with lurking? That does nothing but further my analogy with someone doing nothing more than evesdropping and then jumping in to troll once in a blue moon. Bah.

Haha, seriously, what is up with it? I've pretty much been a "lurker" on this board since it started. It's the only step down from being one of those losers who spends all their time posting on the internet, haha. Great!

 

[JayKeeley]

^Yep.

Sorry to say, but as sad an existence it is with spending all your working hours posting on a forum (*sings 'which nobody can deny' *), lurking actually manages to take it one step lower.

 

[Doom]

I like to think it's because I actually have less time to waste, and so read and not post. But that's probably not really true.

 

[JayKeeley]

Well, it's an argument but your productivity is probably near zero if you're lurking for the whole duration of someone else's conversation. Actually making posts will solicit responses so at least there is some 'output', which equates to some level of productivity.

Lurking is the equivalent of standing silently in a crowd while everyone else is talking to each other. Honestly, if I'm not posting, I'm off doing something else altogether.

 

[Doom]

Haha, I don't think your employer will take much comfort out of the fact that so what your productivity at work isn't very good, at least your RC posting productivity is top notch.

 

[JayKeeley]

Haha, I don't think your employer will take much comfort out of the fact that so what your productivity at work isn't very good, at least your RC posting productivity is top notch.

Haha. Hey, it's all about multi-tasking and time management. I actually have 2 laptops open in front of me, no shit.

That said, I just don't know why I'd even bother if all I was going to do for 8 hours a day is read other people's conversations. That's some sort of voyeurism thing right.

 

[Dick Sirloin]

Haha. Hey, it's all about multi-tasking and time management. I actually have 2 laptops open in front of me, no shit.

That might be even sadder, dude...