Yeah... we should all only listen to minor chords.
And only dress in black...
And only frown, never smile...
That would be a great world.
Interesting that you're ready to rule out half of the chords/tones in existence... good thing the band doesn't share your ideals.
You missed my point. You were talking about sentimentality - the way people feel, rather than the reality of the situation which you consider 'escapism'. It's cause vs effect. If i'm festering because of something, metal should be (and is) about that thing not the festering which might just be silly thoughts or, ironically, 'escapism'.
I don't really care what Mikael's thought on the matter are
What I was saying, in relation to his statement about the music before it was released is that metal bands always write about death and murder and demons and evil, its cool, its exciting... but its not dark.
How is death/murder/demons/evil not dark?
Examples? Proof? Reasoning? you haven't convinced me of anything.
How is death/murder/demons/evil not dark?
In movies, you couldn't call a horror film like "Friday The 13th Part 98" or whatever "dark", its just cheesy camp horror naffness, like metal music... whereas some psychological dramas with a similar theme and tone to "Watershed" could be considered very dark, by some people.
Of course the director or script writers, or actors could miss the point entirely and turn it into just another awful Hollywood psychological drama... and maybe in your opinion Mike did that with this album and turned something he hoped to be dark, personal and not so naff and cheesy (compared to metal in general) into something overly sentimental and lacking in the atmosphere you hoped for, and in your opinion it turned out to perhaps be even more cheesy than the usual metal gurglings of "Rahhhh! Blood! Murder! Death!"?
I thought Demon of the Fall was pretty fucking dark... But I guess Coil, Burden, Porcelain Heart, and Hessian Peel are pretty dark too...What I was saying, in relation to his statement about the music before it was released is that metal bands always write about death and murder and demons and evil, its cool, its exciting... but its not dark.
Examples? Proof? Reasoning? you haven't convinced me of anything.
How is death/murder/demons/evil not dark?
I believe Kazraine's referring to MIKAEL'S WORDS ON THE NEW MATERIAL BEING DARK WERE POSSIBLY NOT A REFERENCE TO THE DISTORTED GUITAR/GROWLS TO MELLOW/CLEAN VOCAL RATIO BUT the actual feelings behind songs IN HIS OPINION AT THAT TIME..
To all the critics of Watershed in here; Listen to the album again.. and again.
At first listen I thought it was shit. Then it slowly grew on me. And now I think it's probably one of the best albums ever created. I like their new style and the direction they're heading interests me. Opeth grows significantly from album to album and the music demands a lot from the listener. It doesn't surprise me that so many people can't keep up with the intense progression in Opeths music. But somehow I manage to grow alongside the band and I'm lovin' it
- Gramm
I don't understand why Opeth fans always tend to have to spell out the obvious because they think when people say something negative or make a joke they didn't really "understand" the "true intention" of the "genius". Obviously everyone can see what Mike meant by the heavier and darker comment. My point was that this record is about as heavy as Damnation, and about as dark as a lit stadium. This sounds like their least depressive, happiest record Opeth have ever recorded (Heir Apparant aside of course). The lyrics really don't lend well to the songs (as dark as they may be) since they're executed in major keys and like 80% clean.
I thought Demon of the Fall was pretty fucking dark... But I guess Coil, Burden, Porcelain Heart, and Hessian Peel are pretty dark too...
Because we live in reality. Demons aren't real.
Yeah, it couldn't be that someone actually *doesn't* like the album, now could it? /sarcasm
Let people have their opinions. If it changes later on, it changes later on. SO what, big deal get over it. Why can't fanboys just let go?