Kalabalik
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I'm not defending anyone here, but fuck dude, you're just as annoying. You've been here one month and you already have 400 posts, of which not a single post had some substance.
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I'm not defending anyone here, but fuck dude, you're just as annoying. You've been here one month and you already have 400 posts, of which not a single post had some substance.
cool, i will give it several spins tonight and give it some on this forum tomorrow. heir apparent is amazing. more stuff like this please :> i'm thinking of starting a band very like opeth just to please myself and write more opeth-like stuff that i want to hear
Metamyr
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I completely disagree.
Obviously the growls work great on Heir Apparent, since it's more of a Heavy Metal song. However, I think they also work great on TLE and HP. TLE is a very bizarre song, so it's not surprising that things seem out of place at first. However, the more you listen to it the more you start to appreciate it.
I think most people here would agree that Porcelain Heart is the most "Blah" song on the album. Now, obviously part of the reason is it's slightly more commercial and less proggy than typical Opeth (see: The Grand Conjuration), but I think the lack of growls also make it a little more dull as well..
Don't get me wrong, I still think PH is a fantastic song, and probably a smart move by the band (Good song to get people interested in the band). I always listen to the song when I'm listening straight through, but I never really find myself going straight to it as I do with HA, TLE, Burden, and HP
Cerberus III
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Not even one?
Oh well...
I don't give a shit if I annoy people, I only give a shit if I get annoyed.
Does that make me a bad person?
Who gives a shit LOL!
i may have been misconstrued- i personally don't WANT them to get rid of the growls, however i think they don't work with the direction they're heading in. by this you can probably tell i'm not delighted with the direction they're taking. i think burden is embarrassing. as for having a more commercial song or two, that's not a problem for me, the guys have made some extraordinary records they have seen very little money for, i say they tour and get fans and knock themselves out to get some financial reward for everything they've given us. but i don't think that's mike's intention, i think he has more integrity than that.
Metamyr
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How long have you been a fan of Opeth for?
The strange thing about music, is that sometimes the longer you've been attached to the band, the more difficult it is to watch them change. You become very attached to a certain sound, and wish you could have more of that.
I had the same feeling with Katatonia when their new album came out. They chose a very different sound this time around, and it took me a LONG time to start to appreciate it. Now, I find myself listening to their new album more than any of the old ones.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Opeth is definitely moving in a proggier direction than they ever have before. Let me tell you though... some of us are just eating it up. (I fucking love Burden)
Whisper and Weep
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hehe i don't doubt it, i've been a fan since around 2000, and i freely admit i AM finding it hard staying with them in this direction. ghost reveries started strong and then drifted so i didn't feel i'd listened to an album. where are the guitars? where are the riffs? i just feel opeth have lost their hook. they made a similarly massive jump from orchid all the way through to deliverance and damnation and i love all those discs, so i'm not against change per sé. but what made opeth great for me- intricate tasteful fretwork, great acoustic work, balance of clean vocals to occasionally sear through the hard edge of death + black sounds, the mood of each album, that has gone for me. keyboard oboe harmonies? no. just no. get out there with a string quartet and a woodwind section if you want, but don't start sticking in random single instrument patches like that.
Coil is a really good track btw. as is heir apparent. but again... it starts to drift. parts cut in for the hell of it. hex omega is really good based on my last listen.
Metamyr
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Some of us like to discuss it as well. It's fun to see why people think the way they do in regards to music. Sometimes it helps you understand why you think the way you do.
Metamyr
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it can and does work occasionally, but when you start getting into oboes i think you're overstretching the bounds of taste in terms of what a keyboard should be used for. piano, strings, flute, sure, but not a bassoon, oboe, trombone, whistle, or dog bark.
at no point do i wish opeth to become dimmu borgir, who i love in a purely *satan's playing six nights in the theatre of cheese* way.
Metamyr
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cool, i thought they sounded good. there's no way of telling cos the album's liner notes appear to be written in wingdings. i still think you either go full on symphonic or leave lesser woodwind alone.
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SerenityNow!
*burp*
Kristopher
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Back on the subject of the growls,I think it is amazing how it fits in the Locust Eater,I personally don't think they are out of place at all there.I find it a pretty good album so far,though the latter tracks need to grow on me still.
nonsense, all western music is based around splitting an octave into 12 notes. limits are everywhere in the musical world. and the use of oboe on an album is an orchestral, rather than musical, choice imo.
Kristopher, it's more of an issue for me in Hessian Peel 5 minutes 40 in, when the whole death metal thing kicks in, in the most hamfisted way imaginable.
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