What do you see as a 'disgrace' to metal music? Why?

[HamburgerBoy]

Actually I'm too generous and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to you lying fucks sometimes. My initial claim was 99% of releases, not 1000 releases (which I only mentioned when looking at albums specifically). Adding demos and stuff does nothing to improve that percentage.

I average about 10 metal releases that I'd call better-than-OK from 2006 through 2009.

 

[CiG]

Your ability to shift the goalposts on yourself isn't my problem.

To your initial claim it's similarly debunked, all I'd have to do is demonstrate that actually it's only 98% or 97% of metal post-1994 that is [insert whatever criticism here].

I average about 10 metal releases that I'd call better-than-OK from 2006 through 2009.

10 albums for each year between 2006 to 2009 or 10 albums in total within those years?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

So demonstrate it then. Post these thousands of better-than-OK albums.

10 per year.

 

[CiG]

New So demonstrate it then. Post these thousands of better-than-OK albums.

It's such a brutal undertaking and more importantly, there's little point as you won't see value in the lists unless you agree about the quality of the albums.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"All I'd have to do is perform a brutal undertaking, it's that simple"

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I'm looking at RYM's top 100 for 2006 right now. Needless to say, it's pathetic.

 

[CiG]

Brutal undertaking in terms of research and time usage.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

I'm looking at RYM's top 100 for 2006 right now. Needless to say, it's pathetic.

Seeing 10,000 Days in the top 10 is pretty laughable.

 

[CiG]

"All I'd have to do is perform a brutal undertaking, it's that simple"

Wait, actually I'm too generous and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to you lying fucks sometimes. I didn't say anywhere that it would be simple. You and Omni are rats lately.

 

[Omni]

Wait, actually I'm too generous and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to you lying fucks sometimes. I didn't say anywhere that it would be simple. You and Omni are rats lately.

I made fun of you one time for having a drastic change of opinion and you're calling me a rat in a discussion that I'm not even taking part in. Get thicker skin.

 

[CiG]

I made fun of you one time for having a drastic change of opinion and you're calling me a rat in a discussion that I'm not even taking part in. Get thicker skin.

And you just had to respond to being called a rat, get thicker skin.

Also thinking a death metal album is average and evoking no passion one way or the other within me and then nearly 2 years later thinking it's high-tier death metal is not a drastic change of opinion, at least not to me.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Wait, actually I'm too generous and willing to give the benefit of the doubt to you lying fucks sometimes. I didn't say anywhere that it would be simple. You and Omni are rats lately.

"All I'd have to do" implies it's a simple matter. Your conflating of percentages and number counts is objectively wrong. The only lying fuck and goalpost shifter here is you.

 

[CiG]

"All I'd have to do" implies it's a simple matter. Your conflating of percentages and number counts is objectively wrong. The only lying fuck and goalpost shifter here is you.

Where did I conflate those things?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Where did I conflate those things?

You first brought up my 99% argument, I explained that 99% means 1000 better-than-OK albums, then you brought up demos, EPs, etc as if my original argument was about 1000 releases in general, when it wasn't.

If you can find just 50 better-than-OK releases in any format (excluding compilations) from 2006 I'll admit to being wrong.

 

[CiG]

You first brought up my 99% argument, I explained that 99% means 1000 better-than-OK albums, then you brought up demos, EPs, etc as if my original argument was about 1000 releases in general, when it wasn't.

I made the argument that if you're going to judge all metal post-1994 it should be expanded beyond just albums because metal isn't defined just by albums, that's all. Pretty reasonable imo.

If you can find just 50 better-than-OK releases in any format (excluding compilations) from 2006 I'll admit to being wrong.

How do you feel about grindcore?

 

[CiG]

If you can find just 50 better-than-OK releases in any format (excluding compilations) from 2006 I'll admit to being wrong.

Just albums, I didn't need to dip into demos, EPs or splits:

Solitude Aeturnus - Alone
Isole - Throne of Void
Warning - Watching From a Distance
Coffins - The Other Side of Blasphemy
Fall of the Idols - Womb of the Earth
Mirror of Deception - Shards
Spiritus Mortis - Fallen
Zemial - In Monumentum
Darkthrone - The Cult Is Alive
Pagan Altar - Mythical & Magical
Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness
Drawn and Quartered - Hail Infernal Darkness
Archgoat - Whore of Bethlehem
Frightmare - Bringing Back the Bloodshed
General Surgery - Left Hand Pathology
Ghoul - Splatterthrash
Suffocation - Suffocation
Blood Freak - Live Fast, Die Young... and Leave a Flesh-Eating Corpse!
Church Bizarre - Sinister Glorification
Abominator - The Eternal Conflagration
Cardiac Arrest - Morgue Mutilations
Putrescence - Dawn of the Necrofecalizer
Old - Down With the Nails
Urn - Dawn of the Devastation
Bestial Mockery - Gospel of the Insane
Witchtrap - No Anesthesia
Hellish Crossfire - Slaves of the Burning Pentagram
Force of Darkness - Force of Darkness
Dead - Whorehouse of the Freaks
Barbatos - Let's Fucking Die!
Farscape - Killers on the Loose
Baphomet's Blood - Satanic Metal Attack
Bludwulf - Cryptic Revelations
Pharaoh - The Longest Night
Hammers of Misfortune - The Locust Years
Scythe - Decay
Drudkh - Кров у наших криницях
Forteresse - Métal Noir Québécois
Denial of God - The Horrors of Satan
Countess - Holocaust of the God Believers
Heptameron - Grand Master of the Final Harvest
Front Beast - Black Spells of the Damned
Endwarfment - The Paralympik Sessions
Motörhead - Kiss of Death
Dawnbringer - In Sickness and in Dreams
Demontage - Sacrilege 'n Miscreancy
Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death
Galneryus - Beyond the End of Despair
The Gates of Slumber - Suffer No Guilt
Ogre - Seven Hells
*Negative Plane - Et In Saecula Saeculorum
*Katharsis - World Without End

My understanding of "better than okay" is anything that is "good or better than good."
The overwhelming majority of albums here I've heard and am familiar with and the rest are by bands I know are good and I just went ahead and Youtubed the album while at work.

*51st album thanks to Omni and 52nd albums thanks to Dazed.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I've only heard about 8 of those albums and would only call 2 of those 8 (Hammers of Misfortune and Solitude Aeturnus) good, but at least that's a pretty diverse list.

 

[Omni]

I'd like to hear HBB's opinion (and CIG's if he hasn't heard it) on this 2006 album.

 

[CiG]

Appreciating the Celtic Frost worship and insane cymbal work in the first track so far. Vocalist reminds me of Vomitor so extra points there too.

Edit: fucking hell, this rules. Add it to my 50 list.

 

[Mort Divine]

man i haven't listened to negative plane in so long