god, devildriver suck. they might have been better except for the drunken stupidity of the singer. im not really sure. i grow weary of people who look old enough to have a teen-aged kid (ie: the singer) waving wine bottles in the air like, "look at me! im cool and tough cuz i drink!" he also went on some rant about how everyone in the audience was working class like him and that they should all stick together. that may have been true actually but I didnt quite fit the description so i felt left out. yet, then he challenged some guy in the audience for throwing a bottle (plastic, of course) and said, "ill get this fuckin crowd to fuckin kick your fuckin ass!" silliness. then again he may be a real nice guy and devildriver might be my best friends. but no, they suck. anyone else see them in cincinnati? i like that bogarts is smack in the middle of the GHETTO. not a far drive from beautiful over-the-rhine. god, cincinnati sucks.