Why Work?

Dreamlord said:
WHere the salaries are ridiculous is in the entertainment and sports industries. Seriously, what athlete needs $162 million simply for playing a game? Likewise, what actor/actress needs $5 million per new episode of a sitcom?
Holy shit yeah! Has anyone seen the VH-1 shows called "the lives of the rich and famous"...or something like that? Anyway, last night they had Posh Spice and Becks (Victoria from the Spice Girls and David Beckham - captain for England).

Anyway, his endorsement deal with Adidas is worth $150m USD. Apparently that is the biggest endorsement in history, bigger than Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

Come on, Beckham is a good player, but pay the fireman a salary where he can feed his kids without having to work a second nightshift.
 
The woman did her research on where to go to paid the most, and the median was extraordinarly high in San Fran. Granted, she was looking at nurses with Bachelor degrees, you can become a nurse with an Associate's and get paid less. Also you get paid more working in a hospital compared to a clinic or private practice. Even working in scuzzy San Bernardino she would reach 6 figures in her first year of employment with enough overtime (around 60 hours total per week).

JayKeeley said:
The problem with hierarchy is that there is a stagnant middle - I know, I live in it.
Yup. The middle class is always forgotten, but make up, what 70% of the population?

I need to open my own business. A music store or small label or something. Sure I'd be broke, but at least I could enjoy it. And maybe hit it big and become the next capitalist swine bitching about paying taxes. :)
 
Bump.

It's January 2nd. Nobody is here and no clients are calling, but I'm at work because for whatever reason our office is open. That's gay. I'm leaving.
 
i'm sitting at home by myself. i just cooked me a nice meal (cooked, nor "warmed up" :) ), put on some empyrium, burned some incense, tied my hair back, mixed me a thick irish drink and have been laying around relaxing, occasionally admiring the beautiful forest around me on this midwinter morning.

beats work, i guess! :)
 
NAD said:
Bump.

It's January 2nd. Nobody is here and no clients are calling, but I'm at work because for whatever reason our office is open. That's gay. I'm leaving.
Same here. Been here 3 hours, and haven't done one damn thing. Why? Because I'm stuck here while my boss is "working from home" (i.e. playing golf somewhere; yes, it's warm today), and the CEO is at Disney World with his kids.
 
I'm sitting at home listening to Carcass after taking a wicked dump, now I'm going to write some reviews and / or play Morrowind. Life is good.

Too bad I have to drive out to Norco (cow country, it reeks out there) in a few hours to do some actual work.
 
This thread needs more attention.

If I have to be locked up indoors behind a fucking computer, I should playing Morrowind, not doing this make believe we call work.
 
i've been happily unemployed for two moths now mostly reading, listening to music and walking about taking pictures, not sure i'd like to spend the rest of my life that way had i been given the choice, but it's pretty enojoyable atm.
but, regarding work; i will start my university studies this autumn to get a job of some sorts... :D i don't care that much about the payment, the most important thing without a doubt is that i enjoy it, to some extent at least, there's no way i'm spending 1/3 of my life doing something i don't like just to get a few extra thousand each month. hopefully i'll get a job where historical studies are included and that narrows the selection down somewhat: teacher/lecturer, archaeologist, ph.d or perhaps some employment at a museum
 
I'm starting my first shift of my new job in two and a half hours time, w00t(ish) :) kinda surreal cos I was expecting to enjoy more than three weeks of dossination after I finished my exams (and get an easier job...)
 
I've just finished my 2nd year of a Psychology degree. Currently I'm telling myself I'm going to get a summer job, but not doing much about it. Seeing as I have 3 months off, I really should, but I totally can't be arsed. I enjoy sitting around the house doing fuck all all day. I do need the money though, with student debts and all.

It's scary to think I'll be finished next year. I'm thinking of doing a Masters course though, so I might be able to delay getting a job for another year, but I have pretty much no idea what I want to do.
 
It sounds so cliched to say things like 'you have to live out your dreams' etc, but in someway, it takes some courage to do that. The easy option out is to get a basic job somewhere, with some career path, and make the most of it in order to pay for rent and food. It's a cop out, but most who live in the rat race know it, and deal with it.

The only person I know who's in a career change is Chief B. He spent the last 8 years or so working on contracts to build Lotus Notes Exchange systems. The thing about contract work is that is pays REALLY well. And of course, since it's contract work, you don't work the usual 9-5 for the rest of your life. Most contractors work 3-6 months on, and then take the rest of the year off.

Put it this way, most computer programmer contractors earn in 3 months what the average joe blow earns in a year. Just ask Chief B.

So for the last 2.5 years, he's been living off savings and working on his script writing. That's his dream job, and he's making some significant breakthrough. One of which will be announced here one day soon, heh.

The other thing I would say is, for anyone wanting to do something different with their lives, they HAVE to do it before settling down, getting married, and having kids. I did all that, and even moving to America is still part of that experience. I just happen to be married now. I'm not sure what my career change is going to be yet, but it'll come sooner or later.

Until then, I might start playing the lottery.

P.S. Oh yeah, a cousin of mine in Australia is an investment banker (he has an MBA). He's also a writer on the side, and he wrote a novel. Last month, Penguin Publishers picked up his novel and have paid him a WHOPPING advance. Needless to say, he's quitting his job and becoming a full time novellist.
 
That was an excellent post Erik, glad I bumped this thread. :p

I refuse to be too tired for my hobbies, which is why I keep my easy job. It sucks up 40 hours of my week, but every day at 5pm it's out of sight, out of mind. It also helps I stay up until 1am or later most days, I get lots accomplished when the Internet doesn't distract me.

Good luck with university, I'd probably be a lost soul without that experience under my belt, regardless of the fact that my political science degree gets absolutely zero practical use in daily life.
 
That ruled.

It describes essentially a very similar situation to what I will be in after I graduate from high school this coming year. I have really no idea what I want to do for a living, but I know it isn't something where I find no enjoyment or I'm bossed around and have to deal with bullshit all day.

I can't hardly tell you how well that describes the way I feel about a lot of things as well. I would like to be seriously involved in music somehow but everything seems so far off now. My dad has his own business where he just works with his father and maybe if I go into that, I can still find enjoyment because when you own your own business your free a lot of the time. What I really need is to find out how much my friend is really dedicated to music and see if we can make a band that represents everything we love about music.

Being at this age and having the uncertain future looming ahead sucks ass.
 
Erik said:
I'm aware of that, and as I said, I'm a skilled programmer for my age when I want to be. That's also pretty much why I chose to study the computer programming stuff. However, now when I sit down and program things I don't want to do and ask myself "could I imagine doing this for a living for the rest of my life?" the answer is a huge NO. I could care less about if it pays 20 times more than doing something I want.
Yeah, but you can't have everything. The people who have everything are either (a) famous and rich, (b) have old money they've inherited, and (c) lottery winners (or prize winners of some kind).

I think contracting is a really incredible balance. To be able to work 6 months, and then take 6 months off is just perfection to me. Of course, I'd rather not work at all, but I don't qualify for (a), (b), or (c) unfortunately.

Unless of course I have some unknown billionairre relative about to die and has me in his/her will....muwahahaha.

EDIT: Also, nothing is for the rest of your life. You just keep changing things around yourself every once in a while, being in control of your own destiny and all that.
 
Yeah compromise is necessary. I didn't ever picture myself punching numbers for a masonry contractor, but that's what I've been doing for the past 5 years (I think my 5 year anniversary is this week even, jeez). I do plan on building a studio and writing a book in the near future, but if I never make a living off either one, I'll be okay with that.
 
I'm kinda confused how to proceed as well. Last year I spent at university taking qualifying year engineering and needless to say, I thought I would like it, but I didn't. I barely got through because I hated it and I didn't want to do my work, procrastinated, etc... also, it was the first time I lived in a city and it was a culture shock as well.

anyway, I barely got through with my head intact and I'm looking to change to a different program. I was actually thinking of switching off and studying history (wanting to specialize in pre-christian europe, if at all possible) and teaching that for a living, since I could see myself doing that, and enjoying it, but for now... the challenge is getting a satisfactory academic standing again.


as for my current summer job, I operate one of these on local parks:

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Then again maybe you young dudes are worrying too much. At 19 I gave two shits about what I'd be doing for a living in the future, I was living with my parents, working at Kmart, and running out an undeclared major at college. :tickled:
 
I used to be idealist like Erik. Then I decided to buy a house.

While I was getting the paperwork done, and mind you I could've still backed out, our CEO reamed the whole department for something that he didn't have all the facts on and wasn't our doing. If I didn't have the house, I would've quit my job then and there. But, I had committed myself to getting that house so my mom and brother would have a cheaper place to live. So, I compromised my ideal and dealt with the shit job for 18 more months until I was layed off. I looked around during that time, but the economy was crap and nothing interesting came up.

So, yeah, that blows. But now I'm in a job with the same paycheck and 1/10th the stress. And I have a house to live in instead of some shit apartment, throwing money to some landlord who doesn't fix anything. I got what I wanted, but I had to compromise myself temporarily to make it happen.

I'm not saying I'm better or worse for having done that, but it's an example of a situation that you could all find yourself in. All I'm saying is, you can't always do everything you want and live like you want.
 

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