XSr™ Clips (JSX Clips)

[Keiffer]

What do you mean by this?

it's not a parallel Tone stack where the Treble control tames the highs only and so on. Actually the Treble control is like a Volume Input to the Stack. Interaction between controls is very sensitive not always what you may think at first. It takes some getting used too to learn how to dial it. The manual goes into a good bit of detail on this.

 

[Carrier Flux]

it's not a parallel Tone stack where the Treble control tames the highs only and so on. Actually the Treble control is like a Volume Input to the Stack. Interaction between controls is very sensitive not always what you may think at first. It takes some getting used too to learn how to dial it. The manual goes into a good bit of detail on this.

I've noticed this with my rectifier recording pre. as I raise the treble the gain is increased significantly. not just a matter of more treble.

do you happen to know if all the tone controlls affect the amount of gain coming through the preamp section? i.e., do the mid and low etc also affect how much gain is applied? or the distortion character in general?

I know my question may be somewhat vague, in which case my appologies...

 

[Carcass29]

Cheers on getting your JSX...yeah man....awesome! you're clips sound different from mine since I used the EMG 85 in the bridge and I had lower tuning but it's still sounds great. Hope you have better luck with it than I did , it's a kickass sounding head...good luck. Also by the way, if you swap out the tubes and go with 6L6's (I used JJ's)...they will sound very close to the 5150...but better.

 

[xmarcelx]

Hey passive tone stacks are very complex too! Offtopic:
Ever played with this toy: http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/index.html
It shows the frequency response of the tone stack for different settings!

Afaik the soldano's have the marshall tonestack with quite different values and I guess 5150 have them too!

 

[006]

With the JSX, when I go to turn up the treble, I also get a volume boost. It's not me percieving it that way because it's "more clear", it's actually louder.

~e.a

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

well thats unusual isn't it?

I see you recorded those clips rather loud. I'm just wondering how loud it actually gets? Considering I'm going to gig with it and there are some places that don't mic (gotta start at the bottom of the ladder first right?), I may need to crank it...boo.

 

[006]

Dude...it's fucking about to knock over walls n shit at 4 over here. Lol. It, just like the 5150, is extremely loud...plenty of volume. Not only that, the EL34's will help you cut through in a situation with no PA.

~e.a

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

I think I'm in love with that amp lol.

I can't wait to hook it up with a GT-Pro and KILL EVERYTHING!!

 

[Ermz]

I think the best clip on there is the JSX Crunch + Rectumfrier.

The best individual amp clip is probably the JSX Crunch channel. I don't particularily like the Ultra trying to pull that same sound. For me, that channel is about achieving those super satured, mid-rich Kreator tones. Like seriously, the Ultra channel IS 'Enemy of God'.

I'm not particularily fond of the rectifier clip. Not the sound of the amp itself, but rather how its been pushed through by the cab and recorded. I know the amp is capable of a much more crushing rhythm sound. It's character, I preffer to the JSX, in the clip, but for the overall sound when mic'ed, it's just lacking.

Thanks for the clips and settings man!

 

[iekobrid]

Yes, the Recto has more to it...but the problem is the open back cab.

Are the internal speakers hardwired, or could you unplug 'em and run instead to the same cab you used for the Peav?

 

[006]

I know exactly where you are going with that ieko, and I have thought about it already. I think I will hook it up to the Marshall.

~e.a

 

[TheRiverFlowsFrozen]

Sorry if it's been asked before, but are you running the stock EL34's in those clips? If so, excellent tone. I run 6L6's in mine and it crushes. The JSX clips you posted totally slay the recto clips. I was going to sell my JSX for a dual recto a while back but now i'm kind of glad I didn't.

 

[006]

Yes it's the stock tubes. Really the Recto is being misrepresented here, and that's my fault. I should have just hooked it up to a cab instead of mic'ing the open back combo speakers. You have to realize that open back cabinets are not exactly ideal for heavy distorted tone. For one, since the cabinet is open, the speakers cannot create pressure within the cab, therefore the low end isn't there that you typically get with a closed back cabinet. Also, the body of the amp isn't as full.

Yes, the JSX slays the Recto in the clips, but don't let that fool you. I absolutely love my Dual Recto head and my friend's Dual Recto combo (used for these clips) and wouldn't give mine up for the world. Mesa makes some world class amplifiers with an astounding tone that is all it's own.

When you pair a Recto and a 5150/JSX (in my case ) together you can get some ungodly guitar tones man. I swear by the Recto+5150 combination, and countless others agree. Please don't take it as the 5150/JSX is being used to make up the majority of the tone, and the Mesa is for the low end...it's not like that at all. However, the Rectifier series seems to have the most low end out of any amp I've ever owned or played. And not in a bad way. Pair it up with a TS-9/808/whatever to tightened it up and you have a seriously wicked guitar tone with balls for days.

Forgive me if I'm a little long-winded about the matter, it's just that I really don't hope that this experiment sways anyone into thinking Rectifiers are bad amps...they really aren't. They are fantastic and, IMO, one of the best amplifiers in the world.

~e.a

 

[batlas]

Putting the master up on 7-8 even 9 and controlling the volume on the channels actually opens the sound up and makes it even better I think....starting to work the power tubes.

Also a nifty trick...not sure if this is common knowledge. Take a single button footswitch that uses a 1/4" mono guitar cord (such as Marshalls) and plug it into the Lo gain input. Then plug your guitar into the hi gain input. Now, you can readily switch over to the low gain input. When both inputs are used, the amp operates in the lo gain mode. So when the footswitch plugged into the lo input is turned 'on', the amp thinks two guitars are being used, and defaults to the low gain mode. It might not make a huge difference on the clean channel, but it drops the gain enough to have some varience on the gain channels. Now you have a "6" channel JSX. This works on 5150 as well I think. My old marshall switch is broken so I havent gotten around to try it.

 

[TheRiverFlowsFrozen]

I got pretty decent tone with the EL34's, but there was a piercing high end to it when cranked and the low end didn't really satisfy me as it did with my old 5150. The 6L6's took care of both problems. To me, the JSX has a lot more features for the money than the recto. I can't justify paying twice as much for a recto when the JSX can get damn close and still be more versatile. The JSX IS the new 5150.

 

[Nebulous]

WOW. interesting clips man. I'm really surprised that you use so many highs on the amp, even with EMG's. I have to say that from your clips and my own experiance, I do like the character of the Crunch channel more than the Ultra, since teh Ultra seems too compressed as is, reguardless of gain settings. Though both channels have their place in different situations.

Daniel

 

[Phase]

after hearing the rectifier next to this I can't understand why someone would use it....

Could it be because no one would make that decision based on 1 clip on the internet? That will help you understand it better.....I kid you

elephant...nice clips. I actually think the amps are better without the pedal but thas just my taste.

 

[KeithRT99]

i like the crunch channel most. the recto sounds ok on its own.

 

[006]

Yeah, like I said, please don't take this as THE Recto sound...honestly it sounds really bad in the clip...and that's my fault. Basically just ignore the Recto clip and wait until I take these bad boys to the studio tomorrow.

~e.a

 

[Skyweaver]

nice tones, can you put a 5150( or 6505+) up against it ?