Yeah and Helter Skelter was once one of the more 'extreme' rock songs out there... key word here is WAS. Stop living in the past.
I thought it was a given that MERCYFUL FATE was in the 1st wave of BM, just as BATHORY and CELTIC FROST were. I wasn't even aware it was up for debate.
That said, it doesn't count either way since this thread asked to exclude 1st wave.![]()
Yeah, but I think Bathory should still count
Yeah, but I think Bathory should still count due to the overwhelming direct influence and the fact that a lot of 2nd Wave stuff basically just sounds like Bathory anyway.