2003 still rules.

[Ayeka]

St. Anger was Metallica's return to form.

brutal...

The band and fans were both proclaiming St. Anger to be the return of their 80's style. I was merely pointing out that bands love to use the "return to roots" to pull in their older fans.

Man, I fucking hated that. I knew these people were full of shit before the album came out, but once it did come out what followed was disgusting. "Metallica are back!!!!!" - what the fuck?!?! Metallica are back with the worst album to be released this millenium, anyone with two ears and one brain can figure out it's nowhere near the standards of days gone by. Even worse was the "they have returned to their roots!" bollocks. Anyone who actually listened to the old album knows that this is an outright lie, so either these people are deaf, stupid, don't actually have the old albums and are just swallowing the band's/magazines bullshit, or just outright lying. I found it quite sickening that there were fanboys out there who needed to lie in order to justify their waste of money and desperate attempts to look Metal, and not quite realising what epitomes of pathetic fanboydom they were...

 

[Dark One]

Man, I fucking hated that. I knew these people were full of shit before the album came out, but once it did come out what followed was disgusting. "Metallica are back!!!!!" - what the fuck?!?! Metallica are back with the worst album to be released this millenium, anyone with two ears and one brain can figure out it's nowhere near the standards of days gone by. Even worse was the "they have returned to their roots!" bollocks. Anyone who actually listened to the old album knows that this is an outright lie, so either these people are deaf, stupid, don't actually have the old albums and are just swallowing the band's/magazines bullshit, or just outright lying. I found it quite sickening that there were fanboys out there who needed to lie in order to justify their waste of money and desperate attempts to look Metal, and not quite realising what epitomes of pathetic fanboydom they were...

What he said.

 

[Ayeka]

 

[JayKeeley]

Hmmm, I wonder if you have a different version because Breadfan shouldn't be on there. The tracklist should be as follows...

Wow, you can remember that old tracklisting? Where is Breadfan originally from then? I know "The Prince" was a bonus track on the Japanese version of AJfA....was Breadfan on that?

Mommy, where's Fluffy?

 

[Dark One]

Wow, you can remember that old tracklisting? Where is Breadfan originally from then? I know "The Prince" was a bonus track on the Japanese version of AJfA....was Breadfan on that?

Mommy, where's Fluffy?

Close - 'Breadfan' (a cover song also initially recorded during the AJFA sessions) was initially released as a bonus track on the 'One' single. It was later re-released on the "Garage, Inc." double album along with basically every other cover tune the band recorded up to that point.

I know the Garage Days E.P. tracklisting so well because I listened to it non-stop in an era when the number of metal bands I listened to paled in comparison to the overwhelming number of the underground metal acts of today. My metal diet back then basically consisted of the usual suspects - Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Queensryche, Anthrax, Megadeth, Exodus, Death Angel, lots of hair band stuff (only a fraction of which still appeals to me at all) and so forth.

The number of albums I possessed back then made it easier to listen to ones I liked over and over again. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I listen to an album I really like more than 5 times total because there are simply so many that qualify.

 

[bloodfiredeath]

Without looking it up, I thought 'The Prince' was the b side to 'One' and 'Breakfan' was a b side to another Justice single.

 

[JayKeeley]

Close - 'Breadfan' (a cover song also initially recorded during the AJFA sessions) was initially released as a bonus track on the 'One' single. It was later re-released on the "Garage, Inc." double album along with basically every other cover tune the band recorded up to that point.

Interesting. Of course, I've been listening to the Breadfan cover for many years (way before Garage Inc.) but it's been on various formats for me: a compilation tape that some dude made for me back in 87/88 called "Bang that head that never bangs" or something like that. The tape basically contained all the Metallica covers from Garage Days re-revisited and also included Am I Evil, Blitzkrieg, The Prince etc.

It was a cool tape, but never listed where those b-sides were originally taken from so I guess I never knew / thought about it. And of course Breadfan appeared in their live set for a while so it was on a bunch of bootlegs I owned. Metallica were (are?) such a tight band that if you had bootlegs taken from the soundboard, it was like listening to a proper live album - no overdubs needed. Mark now has several of those shows I'm sure.

Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Queensryche, Anthrax, Megadeth, Exodus, Death Angel, lots of hair band stuff (only a fraction of which still appeals to me at all) and so forth.

Only a fraction? Wait I wrote a whole response here and then deleted it because I think I've misunderstood ...do you direct that statement to the 'hair band stuff' only, or to the entire list of bands mentioned? It's just the hair bands right?

Nowadays, I'm lucky if I listen to an album I really like more than 5 times total because there are simply so many that qualify.

Part of that has to do with having money. Back when I was 17, I would only buy albums I could afford, and limit those to 'classics'. Nowaday, I can buy more because thankfully because I can afford to do so, but I still try to restrain my spending because you end up with a lot of junk at the end of the day.

It always shocks me a little when all these non-working young students here go out and buy 10 CD's at a time!

 

[jimbobhickville]

Yeah, both Breadfan and The Prince were B-sides to singles. I thought Breadfan was on the Eye of the Beholder single, but it could've been One.

And 80s Metallica ruled all; it's the music that got me into music. 90s Metallica is what made me lose hope that metal would stay around; thank goodness for the internet.

 

[Dark One]

Without looking it up, I thought 'The Prince' was the b side to 'One' and 'Breakfan' was a b side to another Justice single.

That is a possibility. Anyway, it was a b-side or a bonus track on something Justice related.

 

[Dark One]

Only a fraction? Wait I wrote a whole response here and then deleted it because I think I've misunderstood ...do you direct that statement to the 'hair band stuff' only, or to the entire list of bands mentioned? It's just the hair bands right?

Haha, to clarify, yes, I was referring to hair bands only, not the other bands listed.

 

[Hell Mike]

fuckof METALLICA RULES

 

[NAD]

It always shocks me a little when all these non-working young students here go out and buy 10 CD's at a time!

Before I started working I only had one shipment like that, via Columbia House. I'll never forget that day, I was 15 and such classics like Danzig I, Megadeth RIP and Countdown, Prong, Helmet, and all kinds of crazy crap showed up in this one glorious box.

Kinda begs the question though... how can students survive without working? I couldn't even make it out of high school without a steady income.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

...lots of hair band stuff (only a fraction of which still appeals to me at all)...

I think it's hilarious that you went out of your way to point out this distinction, lol.

Dude, just accept it. Hair bands rocked and still do.

 

[Hell Mike]

amother dear fathwer nwhat ids this hell you have out me through

 

[NAD]

Daddy daddy I need more CDs?

 

[Hell Mike]

The Corwd Is Sweating The Shows About To Start

 

[Dark One]

I think it's hilarious that you went out of your way to point out this distinction, lol.

Dude, just accept it. Hair bands rocked and still do.

Heh, well, I do believe in what I said, I wasn't just trying to save face by putting down lame hair metal or anything like that. I really have no interest the way I used to in, say, Bon Jovi, Poison, Cinderella (though the first one still rocks), Warrant, Winger, Y&T, Danger Danger, and buckets and buckets more in that vein.

Some of the bands that I do still like and have much respect for include: Dokken (Beast From The East and backwards), Ratt (particularly though Dancing Undercover), Europe (the self-titled debut album is a fantastic slab of early metal), Def Leppard (Pretty much Hysteria and backwards - the albums On Through The Night, High 'N Dry and Pyromania rule), Kingdom Come (sue me, I love the Zepplinesque style), Skid Row (Slave to the Grind rules!) and the extremely underrated White Lion (love every album). While all of these bands had songs that could be considered "cheesy" at times, I really feel these bands had something extra to offer that to me showed both maturity and integrity and not just a "playing the style to cash in on its popularity" mentality.

 

[bloodfiredeath]

Kinda begs the question though... how can students survive without working? I couldn't even make it out of high school without a steady income.

Well, when I was a college student, which was 10 years ago, I survived by being a motherfucking kleptomaniac. I was real bad and looking back, probably lucky I never wound up in the pokey. Plus I had all kinds of scams around campus where I could scrounge a few bucks here and there.

 

[NAD]

You're terrible, but since you used the term pokey you are hereby absolved of all sin.

I worked at fucking Kmart from high school to halfway through college, and I'm still at the same job I got when I was a junior, nearly 5 years ago now I guess. Damn.

 

[J.]

I never worked in college. The folks provided me with monthly income.