What is there to "elabore"?. Listen to the first Grave Digger album, and you'll see all many parts of their music that are are totally AC/DC oriented. The influence goes far into their whole discography as well. As for Running Wild, all their mid tempo moments (and they are a lot) have "AC/DC" written all over them.Yeah I can see Accept, although I'd like more specific information. Other two I haven't heard much from but what I have didn't strike me as AC/DC, please elaborate.
More importantly, note the difference between these two assertions:
- AC/DC influenced metal
- AC/DC influenced Accept
There is certainly nothing more than a marginal influence of AC/DC to be found in the collective metal musical family, probably less. We need to ask questions like "what did AC/DC contribute to metal that wasn't there already?"
Is it AC/DC influence or rock influence? How can you tell?What is there to "elabore"?. Listen to the first Grave Digger album, and you'll see all many parts of their music that are are totally AC/DC oriented. The influence goes far into their whole discography as well. As for Running Wild, all their mid tempo moments (and they are a lot) have "AC/DC" written all over them.
Again, AC/DC or rock? Really this doesn't matter as I don't think there is any way to argue that AC/DC influenced the metal sound in the way that Black Sabbath did and consequentially assert that they were any sort of "metal pioneers".It's not only Accept, the bands go on and on and on...Saxon, Riot, Anvil...
I think it's been fairly well established that thrash is metal with punk influence, you will certainly need to go into far more detail if you think AC/DC was a notable contributor to thrash metal.even thrash metal bands like Anthrax can be seen as "AC/DC on many steroids and a kick on the butt".
Don't understand this sentence.As for the scene in general, you don't have to actually LISTEN the band's music within the other band's music to know that they influenced them.
Now this is interesting, please go into more detail.The "groove" and "boogie" elements in metal owe almost everything to AC/DC. While not being the primary, or even secondary influence in metal, their existance significantly affected the whole sound of many many bands.
Don't understand this sentence.
Are you serious, or you are just arguing for the shake of it?Is it AC/DC influence or rock influence? How can you tell?
Again, AC/DC or rock? Really this doesn't matter as I don't think there is any way to argue that AC/DC influenced the metal sound in the way that Black Sabbath did and consequentially assert that they were any sort of "metal pioneers".
Actually i won't get into detail for something that i did not say. Read again (and again).I think it's been fairly well established that thrash is metal with punk influence, you will certainly need to go into far more detail if you think AC/DC was a notable contributor to thrash metal.
It is indeed insteresting, start listening and maybe you'll finally understand what i'm saying.Now this is interesting, please go into more detail.
Musically they are about as pure rock and roll as you can get (apart from a few metalish riffs s/a "Let There Be Rock"), lyrically they are even more purely rock and roll. Notice that the main theme present in their music is rock and roll. They don't fit into the evolution of metal as we know it today regardless of what they were considered by whoever when they came out. Their influence on later metal is negligible. If a band who followed the three chord rock formula almost without derivation and whose entire output is devoted to the concept of rock isn't a rock band, what is?
It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock & Roll)
Rock & Roll Singer
Rocker
There's Gonna Be Some Rockin'
Let There Be Rock
Rock & Roll Damnation
Rock & Roll Ain't Noise Pollution
For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)
That's the Way I Wanna Rock & Roll
Rock Your Heart Out
Can't Stop Rock & Roll
...yeah, I'd say they were a rock band.
Thanks, that's not the part I was having trouble with though.LISTEN = HEAR
English is not his native language.
I thought it was a simple enough question, I don't see why your tone is turning so defensive. I've never considered, nor seen reason to consider, AC/DC a major factor in the development of metal; you seem to believe otherwise so I am asking you questions so as to better understand your position.Are you serious, or you are just arguing for the shake of it?
It's just an analogy. Don't expect me to understand your position if you can't even be bothered to explain it.Seriously what part of what i say you don't understand? Why do you always have to mention Black Sabbath in every single post you make? How the fuck are Sabbath related to this? Is this a Sabbath vs AC/DC thing? Right here i should have started following your path by saying "oh and what did Sabbath influenced except doom?" or "Did Black Sabbath influenced it or maybe it was Blue Cheer?". I seriously don't have any idea what you want to prove with this, that AC/DC were not influential because Sabbath were more?
"Please Elaborate"
So are you just saying thrash bands sound like "AC/DC on many steroids and a kick on the butt" coincidentally?Actually i won't get into detail for something that i did not say. Read again (and again).
I'm asking you to explain what "groove" in metal has to do with AC/DC. And "boogie", but first you'll have to explain what you even mean by "boogie" in metal.It is indeed insteresting, start listening and maybe you'll finally understand what i'm saying.
AC/DC are fuckin great.
Then again, you probably think Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden are "overrated."
Thats right, they've plenty of chance to make crap albums (and many do) but a bands later career mistakes have nothing to do, with how infleuntial they were in the beginning.Having propagated a genre does not guarantee that a band is guaranteed a decent output for the rest of their career.
In a way, they are, despite having influenced metal as a whole. Having propagated a genre does not guarantee that a band is guaranteed a decent output for the rest of their career.
AC/DC is not metal, in my opinion, though they have the high energy and hyperbole of one. But they would most comfortably fit into a hard blues rock category.
In a way, they are, despite having influenced metal as a whole. Having propagated a genre does not guarantee that a band is guaranteed a decent output for the rest of their career.
As is the case for nearly all bands who release a significant number of albums, quality significantly declines, and in most cases, a band becomes irrelevant by their fourth or fifth album. Accordingly, I don't waste my time judging a band based on anything but their strongest material. You also have to be aware of perspective. Judging a major band like the aforementioned, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, etc., as overrated or not is not the same as judging, for example, Death or Obituary or some sort. I'm sure I don't have to explain why.
Then again, you probably think Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden are "overrated."