Kenneth R.
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i'm not. i'm employing reason to investigate the meaning of these words that people often take for granted. i seem to have pissed you off. consult a question mark before you start sounding like a robot again.
Silent Song said:i'm not. i'm employing reason to investigate the meaning of these words that people often take for granted. i seem to have pissed you off. consult a question mark before you start sounding like a robot again.
who said this exactly? youre apparently not reading the posts. either was cythraul but he was honest enough to say he wasnt.umdebaba said:So Christians still do good because they give money right?
yes, it is your right to argue. do you think all those words just arose out of nowhere all at once and then someone wrote them down? your argument regarding omnipotence was great, this one is terrible. it makes me think you are just lifting things straight out of books.umdebaba said:I did not make up the English language so it is not my right to argue what the definition of a word is, that is the job of a dictionary. A fact is not an opinion because if it was then they wouldn't call it a fact genius. Stop being stupid and use a dictionary, that is what it's for.
dorian gray said:Let's face it, Christians do alot of good shit in the world. No offense, but most of you athiests don't do shit. How much money did you give away to charities this past year? None? Sounds about right. So, it's not really appropriate to bash on people like Kenneth who believe.
you defined fact with two more words that need defining. what exactly is a "truth" and what does it mean to be "proved"?umdebaba said:[size=-1]fact - a concept whose truth can be proved; "scientific hypotheses are not facts" [/size]
i agree with dorian on this.umdebaba said:I did not make up the English language so it is not my right to argue what the definition of a word is, that is the job of a dictionary. A fact is not an opinion because if it was then they wouldn't call it a fact genius. Stop being stupid and use a dictionary, that is what it's for.
dorian gray said:yes, it is your right to argue. do you think all those words just arose out of nowhere all at once and then someone wrote them down? your argument regarding omnipotence was great, this one is terrible. it makes me think you are just lifting things straight out of books.
if you wouldve read on, you wouldve seen that i was speaking directly to those who were arguing against me. i named them. i also challengd them to discuss how much they gave away to charities in the last year. not one took me up on the challenge. i wasnt speaking to athiests as a whole. you know this.umdebaba said:Don't remember your own posts eh?
Where is your basis for this? Nowhere. A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square. Only difference is that what I said can be proven. You have no basis calling a fact an opinion. You are digging yourself into a hole here.Silent Song said:i agree with dorian on this.
who WROTE a dictionary hmm?? you think Webster was faultless?
i never said facts and opinions are identical things. they are seperate words because, as i stated, a fact IS an opinion. not all opinions are fact.
dorian gray said:if you wouldve read on, you wouldve seen that i was speaking directly to those who were arguing against me. i named them. i also challengd them to discuss how much they gave away to charities in the last year. not one took me up on the challenge. i wasnt speaking to athiests as a whole. you know this.
actually, no i am not.umdebaba said:Where is your basis for this? Nowhere. A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square. Only difference is that what I said can be proven. You have no basis calling a fact an opinion. You are digging yourself into a hole here.
Silent Song said:actually, no i am not.
where do you think "facts" come from? and do you believe they are identical to "truth"?
i have very good basis for calling facts a subset of opinions.