Are modern emo/metalcore bands the new glam metal?

[Elric of Melniboné]

It may be so, but that is a ridiculous subgenre name.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Not nearly as ridiculous as depressive suicidal black metal.

 

[CiG]

No, it's way worse than that.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"Twinkly" is just a rough musical descriptor, not much different from "jangle pop" (an established sub-genre). "Depressive suicidal" as redundant and pathetic.

 

[CiG]

Twinkly is just hilariously shit sounding. Not that I'm defending DSBM.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Not nearly as ridiculous as depressive suicidal black metal.

That's just boring.

Twinkly math emo makes me think of a sparkling vampiric emo nerd with serious math skills.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

More edgy than boring.

 

[CiG]

Yeah it's definitely edgy. WOE IZ ME I CUT MYSELF IN THE KOLD BATHTVB.

 

[arg]

hot emo girls cutting themselves in bathtubs need music too

 

[The Ozzman]

At least some of what was considered glam metal kicked some fucking ass. Emo was just for faggots.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Hell no it isn't, glam metal at its best had a great combo of poppy song structure and unique, interesting visual flair with technically impressive musicianship. It was an extension of David Bowie, the New York Dolls, T. Rex, etc. and their stylings into heavy metal. Metalcore, screamo, etc. bands are pseudo-depressive, pseudo-edgy, unoriginal hacks usually bereft of unique or impressive vocals or guitar work who think they're cool or outside the norm simply because they associate themselves with metal and alt culture, but are ultimately just weak, vapid "metalheads" too pussy for something like, say, Autopsy. I know that I just typed one hell of a run-on sentence there, but I don't really give a flying fuck.

To be fair, the bulk of glam metal's fanbase was, perforce, made up of people who were "too pussy" for something like Possessed or Bathory.

 

[CiG]

Pussies in what way?

 

[CiG]

That question was aimed at @Serjeant Grumbles.

 

[CiG]

Oh okay.

Because I do agree with you on this. If the measure of "too pussy" is, you didn't get into Possessed or Bathory, then I guess people that preferred classic metal are just as pussy as glam metal fans.

It's a silly line in the sand in my view. I'm no huge defender of glam metal, I like a lot of the first wave albums, but I think criticising anything based on whether it appeals to extreme metal fans is silly and immature.

 

[CiG]

Am I a pussy for preferring Hammerheart and Twilight Of The Gods to The Return... and Under The Sign Of The Black Mark, since Bathory was used as an example?

I'm not saying that those former albums are similar to glam, but they're certainly less heavy in an extreme sense and therefore moderate by definition, compared to the latter albums mentioned.

 

[CiG]

Alice Cooper was like a great horror film complete with it's soundtrack, all performed on a stage.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

That question was aimed at @Serjeant Grumbles.

I was just using H.P.'s own verbiage for the sake of counterpoint. I mean, I used quote marks, after all. Both glam metal and "emo" metalcore have a much more accessible sound and therefore attract a wider audience, most of whom would never give extreme metal the time of day. That was the point I was trying to make.

 

[CiG]

That's my fault, I didn't back read.

 

[EternalMetal]

Ive always considered nu-metal to be the next trendy appeal to a larger audience movement within metal, and metalcore was more of a result of the hardcore punk and emo scenes bleeding over into metal that happened to find mainstream appeal. Nu-metal was the mainstream answer to the thrash scene, and along with it came the superficial tough guy imagery, the MTV appeal, etc (what was 'cool' in the 90s vs what was 'cool' in the 80s). To me, metalcore was more of the spawn of the hardcore punk and the emo scenes; most of the people I knew who originally grasped onto the scene were the emo kids who wanted a little metal in their life. I dont personally feel like the metalcore scene is the 00's answer to the same thing, as I think the scene ties to metal are too tenuous. I think metal started going more underground after the 90s, with the thrash bands of the 80s carrying the torch in the mainstream.

So to answer the original question, id say no.