yes, insidethefall, it's not the musical style that makes ATG or Muse (to name a few on this thread) similiar to the katatonic fair, its definition is individual for sure, nobody has stated it as universally valid i think. it's much more the approach, emotional intensity, some context ideas. ATG personally for me have many so called urban odes as Katatonia use to re-embody too - really different styles in creating, but the bitter conclusion of being all alone and forgotten as a person is there in both cases... me thinks.