Black metal or Death metal....

Guitarmaster said:
Let's see: Death metal consists entirely of nerdy wankers that play exercises as fast as they can. Black metal consists of poser Satanists who play as raw and shitty as possible. Conclusion? They both suck.
youre ignorant. thats ignorant.
 
Ikil said:
And I agree that Mayhem is overrated to, because they are one of the first, that helps their case to. Musically, they are pretty average. And to say Darkthrone are great is laughable really. There are bands I don't like but know they are great musicians, Darkthrone is far from that. I listen to enough bands and genres to 'get it' buddy!

Ikil

The fact that you say that Darkthrone are far from great musicians implies that you don't get what Darkthrone is really about.
 
Playing in a style that is "raw" does not make the musicians necessarily shitty. Listen to Preparing for War, a Darkthrone compilation featuring tunes from the first four records and some live cuts. You may not like what you hear and certainly to a degree what we like is subjective, but I would argue that it is an objective fact that the musicians in Darkthrone can indeed play and play well. I think what you object to is the style. Soulside Journey is much more along the lines of death metal and most of the same musicians played this music.
 
Not listening to Burzum because your opinion differs from him is still stupid, regardless of what you say.

To be honest, I agree with him on a lot of issues, and disagree on some, but whatever.
 
Ikil said:
Well, I am not the only one who is like that. Plenty of others share my view.

As I explained before, I'd support him if he soughted himself out. But he hasn't, so why should I support someone like that?

So if Saddam Hussain formed a metal band and it was good, you would support it?

Ikil

yes. Confusing all sorts of other things which have nothing to do with how it sounds is kind of like being a headcase who is incapable of controlling their thoughts. There is medication though that supposedly helps.
 
Are Bergtatt and Nattens Madrigal considered black metal or folk metal?
Black metal, Bergtatt is folk influenced black metal. Ulver is teh rocks.

In retortion to the alteration going on, boycotting a band/artist soely on the views of the composer is rather a misguided and an uneducated response, at best.
 
Julian Zembrowski said:
In retortion to the alteration going on, boycotting a band/artist soely on the views of the composer is rather a misguided and an uneducated response, at best.
What I got from his posts was that he listens to the music and will happily download it, just doesn't want to support (or at all fund) Varg's cause by purchasing Burzum CDs. Nothing wrong with that (don't get me wrong, I'm all for paying for music, just not funding retards), and It's diferent than completely boycotting the music.
 
Thankyou, someone finally has taken the time to actually read what I said.

I owe you a beer Khayman666...Can On!

Ikil
 
I don't see how he needs to redeem himself, murder is a natural form of dominance, whats so wrong with a Pagan man church burning? Obviously during the spread of Christianity, the Jeudo-christian churches ordered other religions be made heretics, the churches burned, the practicioners burned.. etc. Isn't it just revenge?

As for racisim goes, blind ignorance is indeed a idiotic. Skin colour simply has to do with the natural conditions of your part of the world. But I can understand the disaproval of immagration and such, if you look at it immagants are usually unprepared to fit into a new country and end up adding nothing to the heritage.
 
I agree with Ikil ... if you see what Varg is all about, then for most people it's impossible to support him in any way ...

@Julian Zembrowski: go study sociology or something like that, because you are saying stupid things ... if anything, immigrants mostly enrich societies in every way! it has always been like this, and a society that closed themselves from the world became stagnant. oh well, no politics here i guess :p but please, do me a favour and read a book!

on topic again ..... I used to listen more to black metal, but now I'm discovering more and more death metal. but still, black metal is the more evil in every way! as for musicianship, I think death metal offers more room for complexity and skills, but that's just my opinion perhaps. (I'm not saying black metal is simple, easy music!! I still like black metal)
 
If I had to make a choice, I would choose black. But neither typical black, nor typical death are my favourite kinds of music. I like music which is OVER things like genre or style, which is difficult to classify, but which is good.
 
(I'm not saying black metal is simple, easy music!! I still like black metal)
Fear not, black metal was made to be simple yet effective in atmosphere.
Please do not attempt to insult my intelligence, you might end up catching yourself thinking! :o and clearly that is not permitted in an Opeth forum.
 
I started off listening to Death Metal, Arach Enemy, In Flames etc. Got into Opeth which i though at the time was Death Metal, i realise now i was wrong, it's got DM elements but over all it's somthing totally different.

I was really put off Black Metal by Darkthrone and Mayhem cause there...well...shite. But one listen to "Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk" and I was hooked on Emperor, the i got into Immoratal, went back to it's roots and got into Venom and Celtic Frost (awesome) and just very recnetly I got into Enslaved.

Overall i listen to more death metal but there's certain black metal bands i really like.

Black metal is more about atmosphere and operatica, most death metal is just sheer technical aggression
 
Let's see: Death metal consists entirely of nerdy wankers that play exercises as fast as they can. Black metal consists of poser Satanists who play as raw and shitty as possible. Conclusion? They both suck.

You have a point. A blunt one definatley. But non the less still quite true. Although i still love both.