Give an example of what you mean. Which parts of which songs? As far as I'm concerned, the composition on Anthems is a great example of dissonance/consonance and tension/release, i.e. dissonant riffs creating tension and reaching climax with riffs that use more ordinary diatonic harmony. And "chaotic without being coherent"? Chaotic- confused; completely disordered. Coherent- logically connected; consistent. There's no such thing as coherent chaos.Guardian of Darkness said:
To me it sounds like the riffs are pasted together. Even earlier albums are guilty of this. Regardless of this, it's just dull and predictable 2/3 note blasting guitar riffing mixed with cheesy keyboards and pointless tempo changes. The melodies are often obvious attempts to appeal to a more mainstream audience. The cheesiness and the lack of structure and atmosphere means that the music doesn't express the emotion which Emperor aimed for. Some (not many) parts are aesthetically sound, but the emotion isn't there. They're impressive technically, but if one wants technical ability they'll listen to jazz.
The structure of the music can still have coherence while being chaotic - or rather, an effective balance between the two. See the first half of "With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness" for details.
The melodies are not attempts to appeal to a more mainstream audience. They're simply creating a different feeling on that album by using a more varied harmonic scope. Anthems can never in any way be mainstream. Riffs pasted together? I can maybe sense that at some points but it doesn't characterise the entire album. I don't see how their tempo changes are pointless. I guess you just enjoy music that lacks creativity and dynamics.Guardian of Darkness said:
Well if that's how you would define "chaos with coherence" then I believe that Anthems has this quality. Anyway, I'm done arguing about Emperor. Guardian, you can never convince me that you're right about this. I don't think you have the knowledge or authority to speak on such matters no matter how much you try to make yourself seem knowledgable and qualified.
Wrong. Melody is an essential part of most forms of music. It just depends on whether or not the melodic content is derived from traditional major/minor scales or tonalities that deviate from the traditional diatonic scales. Think about it: there's a pretty big difference between the way melody is presented in the music of Beethoven or Bach for instance and the way it is presented in pop music. Both classical music and pop rely heavily on the traditional scales. However, most classical music is neither catchy nor accessible. More "melodic" does not always=more mainstream.Guardian of Darkness said:Yes, because more melodic = more mainstream.
Please, I love the Family Guy alot but the simpsons have been around 5 times as long and more classic episodes than the family guy. It is very close but the Simpsons in the superior show.Guardian of Darkness said:
