Christian metal
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Musically, i've never heard a good christian band which makes me think that maybe there's none.
As for the lyrics, they're all badly written and quite stupid.
Hrm... it's a contradiction but i don't really care about it so i should be able to vote for 2 options but i can't... and you made me lost my 666 posts
ok i'm bored
As for the lyrics, they're all badly written and quite stupid.
Hrm... it's a contradiction but i don't really care about it so i should be able to vote for 2 options but i can't... and you made me lost my 666 posts
ok i'm bored
Fountain of Tears is a good Christian metal band. Their lyrics aren't overtly Christian, as most are, and the music is very good.
Melancholia
Eternal daydreamer
I don't give a damn about Christian metal and i don't think i've ever listened much of it....
sometimes i think it's a way of making propaganda and i get pissed off..
here in Greece there is a Christian rock (rock??? yeah,they wish
) band which consists of 3 monks....one of them even played to a metal band called Inner Wish..anyway the point is that they are completely pathetic.... they have stupid songs about drugs,about faith and this "chip" many fanatics are talking about..... and there is quite a lot of kids who like them
sometimes i think it's a way of making propaganda and i get pissed off..
here in Greece there is a Christian rock (rock??? yeah,they wish
) band which consists of 3 monks....one of them even played to a metal band called Inner Wish..anyway the point is that they are completely pathetic.... they have stupid songs about drugs,about faith and this "chip" many fanatics are talking about..... and there is quite a lot of kids who like them I never listend to christian metal, those two words just can't stand next to eachother. Christians should stay out of metal with their stupid god! Christraping black metal!
The Wanderer
Watcher of the Storm
It usually doesn't bother me as long as they let me be, I let them be. If they keep it to the tunes than noone gets pissed off. their used to be a christian band here that started some shit with some other bands and that didnt' work out for them very well. if the music is good, i'll check it out. i do dig extol. that's probably the only band who happens to be christian that i listen to. oh, paramecium is good too. great doom death. the first album is fuckin heavy as hell.
Christian metal?
Ha. The "christian" term is defined by the lyrics. Like epic metal.
It is heavy metal, with christian lyrics. Black metal is more stupid if you ask me. I don't give a fuck about religion but bands like STRYPER, SAINT, STEEL PROPHET, LIGHTMARE
mean muuuuuuuuch more to metal than bands like
CoF (hahahaha)
Dimmu Borgir
Immortal
Mortuary Drape and aaaaall these childish wanna be satan and evil and mean bands that make themselves up just to show that they are really the antichrists. (make me laugh! heh).
"Life ever changing it's hidden reality, but then in a moment we see
is this just a shadow of the spirit planes we've yet to see
lord come soon for me"
I don't give a fuck about religion and shit.
But these bands really helped metal at its birth, and that is what i respect in them.
(Plus the fact that most of them are really awesome)
Ha. The "christian" term is defined by the lyrics. Like epic metal.
It is heavy metal, with christian lyrics. Black metal is more stupid if you ask me. I don't give a fuck about religion but bands like STRYPER, SAINT, STEEL PROPHET, LIGHTMARE
mean muuuuuuuuch more to metal than bands like
CoF (hahahaha)
Dimmu Borgir
Immortal
Mortuary Drape and aaaaall these childish wanna be satan and evil and mean bands that make themselves up just to show that they are really the antichrists. (make me laugh! heh).
"Life ever changing it's hidden reality, but then in a moment we see
is this just a shadow of the spirit planes we've yet to see
lord come soon for me"
I don't give a fuck about religion and shit.
But these bands really helped metal at its birth, and that is what i respect in them.
(Plus the fact that most of them are really awesome)
Christians are the most vile creatures on earth. They will use any format to push their beliefs upon others. Not even metal is safe.
A quicker person than I once stated that playing metal for Christ is like f**king for virginity. I whole-heartedly agree.
They will bastardize any medium for their cause. DIe Christians, Die!!!
A quicker person than I once stated that playing metal for Christ is like f**king for virginity. I whole-heartedly agree.
They will bastardize any medium for their cause. DIe Christians, Die!!!
phyre@ Exactly dude... Exactly. Shit! Metal youth today has no respect for the fountains of what metal is now. Check the power metal riffing of DT in the cases and check the ones mentioned. Well?
DeathMetalSatan@ haha. You kids make me laugh! Who said anything about beig christian? I listen to all these groups and love them. And i don't listen to shitty BM bands (some of them are good). And i am more antichristian than you are.
DeathMetalSatan@ haha. You kids make me laugh! Who said anything about beig christian? I listen to all these groups and love them. And i don't listen to shitty BM bands (some of them are good). And i am more antichristian than you are.
I think that there is some decent xian metal stuff out there. Impellitteri was pretty good, Mortification had some good stuff, Deliverance, Barren Cross. A lot of the 80s xian metal stuff was good. The intolerable thing was that a lot of the lyrics were just stupid, overly sweet, lame. Just because you're a xian doesn't mean you can't be pissed off, angry, agressive. The really evangelical stuff is also offensive. If you want to put a message in the lyrics, fine, but don't beat me over the fucking head with it.
The same thing holds true for a lot of the so called "satanic" bands. How many songs filled with Christain-hating Jesus-bashing lyrics do you think it takes for us to get the idea that you're antichristian, evil, and just pissed off in general? Try channeling some of that energy into writing some creative lyrics.
The same thing holds true for a lot of the so called "satanic" bands. How many songs filled with Christain-hating Jesus-bashing lyrics do you think it takes for us to get the idea that you're antichristian, evil, and just pissed off in general? Try channeling some of that energy into writing some creative lyrics.
You make me laugh too kid. I didn't realize this was an "I'm more anti-Christian than you are" contest.
This thread is about Christian metal. Accordingly, I expressed my opinion.
Medion
Member
There's enough bands singing about "every-day-life", love, friendship etc so why shouldn't there be bands writing about the "positive" side of religion? *G* (what is the positive side?)
btw, Saviour Machine are quite faszinating although it's too bombastic sometimes.
btw, Saviour Machine are quite faszinating although it's too bombastic sometimes.
Blue Moon
Staring at the Sun
Greetings.
I agree with Metallized on this issue. Satan-worshipping bands may be just doing the exact opposite thing christian bands are doing, but they still "propagate" their beliefs the same way. Accepting one, logically, means accepting the other as well. I don't think insulting christians bands for their beliefs is useful at all.
Furthermore, I'd risk myself to admit that, IMO, Satan-worshipping is an overused cliché by "evil" (make me laugh) bands just to hide their total lack of originality and creativity. I really think it's lame.
I agree with Metallized on this issue. Satan-worshipping bands may be just doing the exact opposite thing christian bands are doing, but they still "propagate" their beliefs the same way. Accepting one, logically, means accepting the other as well. I don't think insulting christians bands for their beliefs is useful at all.
Furthermore, I'd risk myself to admit that, IMO, Satan-worshipping is an overused cliché by "evil" (make me laugh) bands just to hide their total lack of originality and creativity. I really think it's lame.
Blue Moon
Staring at the Sun
Greetings.
@Phyre : As true as your statement can be, have a look in any metal magazine you can find (magazines that cover any metal style, that is). How many christian bands will you find, cross in hand, wearing white clothes, with a wide smile showing teeth (heh, that's how I imagine them !), and compare that number with those clad in black, with black and white make-up, spike- and stud-ridden leather straps, boots just beneath the knees, long hair, pentagrams, etc. So, even if those two different styles are stereotypes, the second one is far more used, so it's an even more popular cliché.
To be honest I never heard any christian bands myself, nor have I read any lyrics (although I believe anyone saying they are crappy, it's easy to point that most metal bands have very crappy lyrics anyway, wich is very sad). They are certainly not better than anti-christian lyrics (though it's questionable to say that strictly hate-filled lyrics are good, innovative, mature and relevant), I'm sure, but I don't think they are worse.
I could argue far more than what I have done now, I consider having only scratched the surface, but as I write I have the feeling that the debate is not necessarily worth it, so I think I'll let it where it is.
@Phyre : As true as your statement can be, have a look in any metal magazine you can find (magazines that cover any metal style, that is). How many christian bands will you find, cross in hand, wearing white clothes, with a wide smile showing teeth (heh, that's how I imagine them !), and compare that number with those clad in black, with black and white make-up, spike- and stud-ridden leather straps, boots just beneath the knees, long hair, pentagrams, etc. So, even if those two different styles are stereotypes, the second one is far more used, so it's an even more popular cliché.
To be honest I never heard any christian bands myself, nor have I read any lyrics (although I believe anyone saying they are crappy, it's easy to point that most metal bands have very crappy lyrics anyway, wich is very sad). They are certainly not better than anti-christian lyrics (though it's questionable to say that strictly hate-filled lyrics are good, innovative, mature and relevant), I'm sure, but I don't think they are worse.
I could argue far more than what I have done now, I consider having only scratched the surface, but as I write I have the feeling that the debate is not necessarily worth it, so I think I'll let it where it is.
I don't know who the Hell you are, but I like you. Thanks for making sense.
Metal started as a rebellious expression against the Judeo-Christian status quo. It is the very antithesis of all that is Christian. Then, one day the Christinas go, "Damn, these guys are threatening with their message and are attracting our youth!" (Really just free and open-minded individuals. Oh, and the Christians probably didn't say "Damn," but alas, I digress.)
Accordingly, they decide to tap into another medium to relay their misguided message. This is much akin to how they stole Yule from the Pagans and called it Christmas.
Religious zealots are low-life scum. Christian metal is almost invariably a watered down version of the real thing, except that it contains a relentless and ridiculous message to follow Christ.
Beatles albums were burned. Now the hypocrites find no problem in going all the way to Death Metal if it will further their aimless cause.
Don't try to tell me that the Satanic metal bands are doing the same. Satanism holds no power over the western world. Moreover, it exists merely as an alternative art form.
I hope that one day, the Christian stronghold in North America dies a painful death: One more painful than the mythological crucifiction of their bastard saviour.
Beatles albums were burned because they said they were bigger than Jesus, not because the Christians found their music morally degrading. And it wasn't just in the US, it was in England and possibly other countries as well. Just thought you might like to get your facts straight before you use them to back up your ridiculous argument. And I seriously doubt metal was created to oppose Christianity; like Black Sabbath said, "hey, I know what we can do to oppose Christ, let's play with distorted guitars". Most of the Satanic bands didn't come into existence until decades later (which by your logic would mean they were doing the exact thing you claim the Christians did, utilizing a new medium to spread their message). I've only heard a few Christian metal bands and none of them were overtly preachy (most of them dealt with political issues, love, sadness, or whatever). In fact, they were far less willing to spread their love for Christ than the Satanic bands are to spread their love of Satan.
Later.
Later.
Regarding Black Sabbath, the reason for their whole "evil" persona was...drumroll please...money. It was completely a marketing device. Occult shit was very popular when they were coming up, so some record exec said, get the crosses boys, frown a lot, act evil.
The Beatles record burnings, was exactly as you said, a knee-jerk reaction to Lennon's comment about The Beatles being more popular than Jesus. The end result--more record sales for the Beatles, 'cause you know when the kids got home and found out that their albums had been burned they ran right out and bought them again.
Personally, I think N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys are fucking evil.
The Beatles record burnings, was exactly as you said, a knee-jerk reaction to Lennon's comment about The Beatles being more popular than Jesus. The end result--more record sales for the Beatles, 'cause you know when the kids got home and found out that their albums had been burned they ran right out and bought them again.
Personally, I think N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys are fucking evil.
My facts are straight. I know of Lennon's comments, but how many proclaimed the evils of Elvis, the Beatles, and rock and roll in general. Europe has a problem with over-zealous Christianity as well. I am aware of tis. However, it is not as rampant and wide spread as it is in the US.
Much of the impetus guiding metal was rebellion against the mainstream. I don't think my points are ridiculous.
Sabbath and newer (so-called) Satanic bands are using imagery to sell albums or simply defy the religious mainstream. I don't think they're trying to preach like most Christian bands do.
enitharmon
chemical mysteries
Why, why, WHYYYY?
I don't understand that. Why are Steel Prophet better or have more to offer to metal than CoF??? At least CoF have their own style (no matter if hilarious or not)
By the way, I consider as satanismus everything that LaVey said, and these black metal bands tell me nothing (and I am gonna say it until I die, Dimmu Borgir are the biggest posers I have ever seen live!!!!!!!!!)(Simon excepted).
Analog, most of the things that are nowadays told about christianity have nothing to do with what Jesus said at the first place! So, I don't see why I should bother about bands that want to convince about THEIR interpratation of the bible.
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