Controversial opinions on metal

[mutantllama]

There's nothing wrong at all with what Invade Me is saying. Songwriting is paramount. Everything else is secondary.

Which is why I still love BATS.

 

[Invade Me]

In this case, the point in the term 'songwriting' is that technicality should only be a means to achieve the realization of your ideas. If technicality instead becomes an end in itself, you lose any chance of a song being rewarding as a whole or as a unity, and instead you are left with cheap short-term kicks.

Do you really expect a fan of Jesus-and-AIDS era Death to grasp that concept?

 

[Hell Patrol]

In this case, the point in the term 'songwriting' is that technicality should only be a means to achieve the realization of your ideas. If technicality instead becomes an end in itself, you lose any chance of a song being rewarding as a whole or as a unity, and instead you are left with cheap short-term kicks.

Ah. So you become Dream Theater?

 

[Dagon666]

Do you really expect a fan of Jesus-and-AIDS era Death to grasp that concept?

You can grasp my balls fuckface.

I'm a fan of good metal. What I search for is a sound that makes me feel good, that puts me in a state of mind where I can just let go of all the shit that troubles me for the moment and just kick ass.

And if I find a song like that, I listen to it, no matter what other people think of it.

The same goes for movies. A movie don't have to be "good good" to be good. A crappy b-movie can be just as enjoyable as music if done right.

We obviously have different views on music pal, so let's agree to disagree.

 

[skeptik]

I hate agreeing with ANUS trolls.

 

[Kara-Shehr]

There's nothing wrong at all with what Invade Me is saying. Songwriting is paramount. Everything else is secondary.

I agree but bad production can ruin a great song. Mixing and producing are part of songwriting.

 

[Sven Pakkanen]

This has gone quite off track, hasn't it?

Although they are "the epitome of their genre" I think Dark Tranquility could be done without. In fact I would say they are pretty terrible.

 

[Sven Pakkanen]

You really fucking like that album don't you...

I can't help it

 

[General Zaroff]

I agree but bad production can ruin a great song. Mixing and producing are part of songwriting.

I agree.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Controlled Bleeding

don't mention cb in the same breath as anal cunt please

 

[General Zaroff]

Allow me to really rustle some jimmies here:

DsO's best material is Manifestations 2002

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

nope.

 

[mutantllama]

Are you trollin nigga?

 

[Cythraul]

I'm not into the whole 'Lyrics don't matter, it's just riffs bro' attitude that's widespread in metal. I think lyrics matter. Sufficiently bad lyrics can sort of ruin an album for me. I wouldn't dislike an album simply because it had Christian themes though. It really depends upon the details of how it's presented.

 

[mutantllama]

No kid.

You sure?

Also, do you skip songs in a Black Sabbath album?

 

[Der Morgenstern]

I do. Especially the Dio era albums.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

don't mention cb in the same breath as anal cunt please

I know they sound nothing alike, but, with the exception of about 5 - 10% of Anal Cunt's "songs" they do not follow established song structures at all. Besides, I listen to AC because of the comedy and Controlled Bleeding because the harsh jarring noise is paradoxically hypnotic and emotionally moving. I guess the point is I was just making a short list of artists that don't use melody, rhythm, harmony, or even tempo when composing their music.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Plenty of Controlled Bleeding stuff does, though! I think you should check out more of their material, and also the band Skin Chamber.

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

Will do.

 

[waif]

I'm not into the whole 'Lyrics don't matter, it's just riffs bro' attitude that's widespread in metal. I think lyrics matter. Sufficiently bad lyrics can sort of ruin an album for me. I wouldn't dislike an album simply because it had Christian themes though. It really depends upon the details of how it's presented.

This. Also, really good lyrics can make a mediocre song enjoyable for me, although bad song is always bad and good song is good unless the lyrics are spectacularly retarded.