I don't think there has to be a connection to goth rock, as even without that genre, gothic can still refer to literature, architecture, photography (etc.), and I believe it's still possible to incorporate this form of gothic into other forms of music. Image-aside, Cradle of Filth did this very well for years without having any real goth rock influences present in their music. However, I don't understand what makes 99% of "gothic metal" bands "gothic".
I believe it is the melodicity,poppyness,fancy-romancy lyrics, operatic vocals: women- soprano, man- tenor/bariton and eclectic clothing that define gothic... when it fullfills these criteria, then it is categorized as 'gothic metal'.
Though, I can see why these bands don't really sound very similar to old gothic bands (imo gothic rock sounds really close to pop/punk music, than anything else). But then again I only listen to some Sisters of Mercy and heard some Bauhaus...
I don't consider gothic metal a genre, because it's only defined by the bands imagery and themes, not style of music. Symphonic metal, or maybe Gothic symphonic metal, could be genres, because those at least say something about the type of metal the band plays
I think Attila Csihar's vocals are weak and unintersting. They're eerie on Ordo Ad Chao at times, but usually they sound like a bored, apathetic old man especially on De Mysteriis.
I think Attila Csihar's vocals are weak and unintersting. They're eerie on Ordo Ad Chao at times, but usually they sound like a bored, apathetic old man especially on De Mysteriis.
I don't care for his vocals. Honestly its the only thing about De Mysteriis I don't like. I really prefered Dead and wish they had gotten a vocalist with a similar style/sound.
You seriously think that album would've been better with run-of-the-mill screaming black metal vocals? IMO part of what makes DMDS memorable is the things about it that are a little weird and make people uncomfortable. What the hell would that album gain by having Dead on it? I simply can't comprehend how that would be better.